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Fight Chat Control @chatcontrol@mastodon.social
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Janeishly
@janeishly@beige.party · Nov 13
@chatcontrol In a discussion yesterday about something happening in the UK, it was pointed out that MPs are more likely to ignore protest emails than protest letters. Because a letter requires someone to open it, log it, scan it and add it to a database. So let's not email our protests to our governments and MEPs. Let's not even print letters. We need to deluge them with hand written protests.
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iguana09863
@iguana09863@mastodon.social · Nov 14
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@janeishly @chatcontrol Take to the streets, protest in front of the parliaments, and that's it. Who would have time to read all the handwritten letters? If they organized with social pressure and took to the streets, that stupid law would most likely be delayed.
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leah & flutters & nose, oh my! 🦋
@mewsleah@meow.social · Nov 13
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@janeishly @chatcontrol the closest some of us are going to get to that is a cursive font, so i hope that's ok #motorDysgraphia
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Janeishly
@janeishly@beige.party · Nov 13
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@mewsleah @chatcontrol Of course! Apparently it's the physical nature of the letter that really throws a spanner in the works.
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Pablo Majster :clippy:
@ppaluchowski64@infosec.exchange · Nov 13
@chatcontrol 😱 No! This isn't really happening! Where did this sudden change come from?! Why do I feel like with each day the pressure increases, it only seems to get better, when in reality, it's getting worse?! There was a moment when I was certain that when Denmark withdrew the idea, that was the end of these stupid ideas for this term. It never occurred to me that it was really just a cover to try to push it through in some less obvious way. I didn't think they'd stoop to such tactics. But I'll say what I always say in such cases: We have to fight! We have to protest! ✊ We can't let this get through! Because if it does, there will be no point in protecting privacy. It scans everything. All of you. It will destroy all the great communication solutions that I value not only for privacy but also for functionality 💔 It will destroy all of us. Go to https://fightchatcontrol.eu Write anything that expresses your disagreement. You don't have to put in the effort; just send the default message; it's always better than nothing. I hope that this time we will not win the battle but the whole war! 🙏 @EUCommission #ChatControl #FightChatControl #StopChatControl #CSAR #CSAM #EU #EuropeanUnion #Europe #Encryption #Privacy #Security #Cybersecurity #Freedom #Democracy #HumanRights #Surveillance #StopSurveillance
Fight Chat Control - Protect Digital Privacy in the EU
Learn about the EU Chat Control proposal and contact your representatives to protect digital privacy and encryption.
https://fightchatcontrol.eu
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ArneBab
@ArneBab@rollenspiel.social · Nov 13
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@ppaluchowski64 this is not sudden. Pressure to control communication has been mounting for many years now. A small summary: https://www.draketo.de/censor-the-net @chatcontrol @EUCommission
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https://www.draketo.de/censor-the-net
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Alex
@xinayder@fosstodon.org · Nov 12
@chatcontrol so time for civil unrest/disobedience? can't wait for all the leaked messages from the Commission and Council showing how terrible these people are...
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haui ☭🇵🇸
@haui@mastodon.giftedmc.com · Nov 13
@chatcontrol Remember that we all live in democracies and have free elections. Of course they will not try and push something that the public doesnt want. They also wont use propaganda and false narratives to gaslight us into supporting this. They also wont use the law to bypass us. We do live in democracies, right? RIGHT???
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iguana09863
@iguana09863@mastodon.social · Nov 13
@chatcontrol There are also Tor, i2p, Veilid, Tox... There are other alternatives to circumvent mass surveillance. Consider using disposable numbers and an encrypted email alias such as Proton and Simplelogin.
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yazomie (she/her)
@Zzyzx@fe.disroot.org · Nov 15
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@iguana09863 @chatcontrol I2P and also Yggdrasil and Reticulum. Not many on them for now, but soon they're going to be useful
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Null03
@Null03@mastodon.social · Nov 12
@chatcontrol Okay so The Privacy fundamental right is just a sentence is a pretty piece of paper.
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iguana09863
@iguana09863@mastodon.social · Nov 13
@chatcontrol Signal is the same thing, except that the app is fully encrypted, but breaking the encryption is another story. Simplex and Session are not affiliated with any company, they are e2e, they do not depend on companies or telephone companies, they are fully encrypted, and you do not need a number to register, nor do you need companies.
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Skyper 💻🎧☕📖
@Skyper@fosstodon.org · Nov 13
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@iguana09863 @chatcontrol It has never been in Signal's intentions to provide anonymity, but security and privacy. It's three different concepts. You cannot track a Signal user with their phone number, but you can know that a phone number is linked to a Signal account.
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greg_93
@Greg_mrt@mastodon.social · Nov 13
@chatcontrol We should protest in the streets. These bastards won't stop until they get it approved.
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Null03
@Null03@mastodon.social · Nov 12
@chatcontrol Gods, the citizens are truly worth nothing. I am worth nothing, it seems.
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Rosetta_45
@Armonia53@mastodon.social · Nov 14
@chatcontrol @echo_pbreyer We need to repeal this law for once for all! I sent 50+ e-mails to every EU MEPs,i don't know if this is enough. Also, we told them that this thing violates the basic human rights of every european citizen, and still, the Danish Presidency pushes it "for the kids" the lamest excuse for control.Fortunately more people than before know about this so more backlash and pressure for these politicians. #ChatControl #Chatcontrol2
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CascaCasca95
@belladonnalily@mastodon.social · Nov 13
@chatcontrol Again I'm gonna do a PSA for everyone since it's critical for Europe and especially for Germany because that means there will be a dangerous potencial for article 4 (Risikominderung) that WILL definitively not be as harmless as presented by the DP due to it's invasive and flawed AI. It's only a matter of time b4 any fuck ups occur so the only chance we have right now is to RAISE our voices and if possible go on the streets for a massive protest in your country to save privacy.
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dreieck
@dreieck@chaos.social · Nov 13
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@belladonnalily How actually is "19. Oktober" shortly _after_ "12. November"? Regards!
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CascaCasca95
@belladonnalily@mastodon.social · Nov 13
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@dreieck I assume it's either case of maybe confusing a month or there was some political correspondence going on on this day (tbh I don't know anything else since the DP will always have a tendency to speak fluent "backdoors").
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CascaCasca95
@belladonnalily@mastodon.social · Nov 14
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@dreieck Hi again Dreieck, one possible date that corresponds and which would make sense is the 19. November with the coreper meeting where there will be a political discussion about chatcontrol or about the potencial release of it. And another screenshot is basically for everyone to use in their stories or posts.
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iguana09863
@iguana09863@mastodon.social · Nov 13
@chatcontrol All is not lost yet. There is the Shadowsocks tool, which is capable of bypassing the Great Firewall of China, and Proxychains is another valid option. Reading chats is only for telephone companies, and the data is used for tracking, whether it's the internet or cable. When you create an account on WhatsApp or Telegram, what do you use? Your phone number. Why do you think they can track Telegram and WhatsApp users through their phone numbers?
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Skyper 💻🎧☕📖
@Skyper@fosstodon.org · Nov 13
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@iguana09863 @chatcontrol It's not that simple to bypass the Great Firewall of China (GFW): https://github.com/net4people/bbs/issues/22
How China Detects and Blocks Shadowsocks · Issue #22 · net4people/bbs
How China Detects and Blocks Shadowsocks Authors: Anonymous, Anonymous, Anonymous, David Fifield, Amir Houmansadr Date: Sunday, December 29, 2019 中文版:Shadowsocks是如何被检测和封锁的 This report first appeare...
https://github.com/net4people/bbs/issues/22
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aprilfoo has moved
@aprilfoo@mastodon.social · Nov 13
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@iguana09863 @chatcontrol That's not the problem. CSS means compulsory spyware in your pocket, before any encryption. Anyway criminals will continue because there will always ways around it. The real problem is that privacy and freedom would be crimilized.
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iguana09863
@iguana09863@mastodon.social · Nov 13
@chatcontrol And don't forget to use a VPN and proxy outside Europe. Proton VPN is a good option, as the company is based in Switzerland and they are very strict about privacy.
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Autonomie und Solidarität
@autonomysolidarity@todon.eu · Nov 13
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@iguana09863 @chatcontrol Switzerland actually decided to introduce mandatory age verification, identity controls and data retention in the last year already and currently works on introducing it, probably to harmonize with the authoritarian push of the EU. Proton therefore contemplates to leave Switzerland.
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Skyper 💻🎧☕📖
@Skyper@fosstodon.org · Nov 13
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@autonomysolidarity @iguana09863 @chatcontrol Indeed. Lumo, their new LLM/AI agent service is already hosted outside of Switzerland.
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Null03
@Null03@mastodon.social · Nov 12
@chatcontrol What do we do now?
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Maya
@yama@tech.lgbt · Nov 13
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@Null03 @chatcontrol Well for chatting switch over to Delta Chat, or any other decentralized messaging app. Theres simpelx, tox. etc. But as of now Delta has the most functioning UI. No phone number, no email, no account. You just open the app and give yourself a username.
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Jason 🍸🫧
@WinNT4@mastodon.social · Nov 13
@chatcontrol The fact that this isn’t compatible with court decisions, existing legislature and common sense clearly isn’t an issue for to the few unelected ones. Not that long ago the internet and new technology used to be exciting and empowering freedom. Now it’s just a tool to enforce the will of the big brother. I’m glad I experienced internet free of this, it’s gonna suck to learn to live offline.
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yazomie (she/her)
@Zzyzx@fe.disroot.org · Nov 15
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@WinNT4 @chatcontrol Don't despair, there are still networking protocols outside WWW that are still going to work more or less - Gopher, I2P, Reticulum, Yggdrasil and so on
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QuadRadical
@QuadRadical@wetdry.world · Nov 13
@chatcontrol How was this just sneak this in??? So far as I was aware, the clause for mandated scanning was out and this fiasco was over. And yet...
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Null03
@Null03@mastodon.social · Nov 12
@chatcontrol This IS illegal. HOW. *HOW*
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yawnbox :softboy_pride:🔜40C3
@yawnbox@disobey.net · Nov 12
@chatcontrol not just citizens...
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iguana09863
@iguana09863@mastodon.social · Nov 12
@chatcontrol So they approved it?
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The Vampire Fish Queen
@TheVampireFishQueen@socel.net · Nov 13
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@iguana09863 @chatcontrol Not fully yet, still needs to be voted on!
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dreieck
@dreieck@chaos.social · Nov 14
@chatcontrol Is there actually a tool to get the postal #address‍es of the representatives in a machine-processable form? It was argued somewhere that writing real letters would make an impact-difference, because the fact that a #letter is physical and needs to be handled (opened, read or just scanned, archived) would leave some more impact than an email which can be physically ignored more easily. #chatcontrol #StopChatcontrol #fightchatcontrol #MEP
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Lau
@evernight@mastodon.social · Nov 14
the new china is here
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Marginalia
@marginalia@mastodon.social · Nov 13
@chatcontrol Everything in the European Union, nothing outside the European Union, nothing against the European Union. Il Duce and Stalin both would be applaud this utter obliteration of the very concept of privacy.
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Stefan
@inwis@mastodon.online · Nov 13
@chatcontrol It's a sad day for democracy in EU.
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bovaz
@bovaz@misskey.social · Nov 13
@chatcontrol@mastodon.social che bastardi
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Maxim
@maxim@chaos.social · Nov 13
@chatcontrol I don't see this reported elsewhere. Any source on this?
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Mindaugas
@mindaugas@mastodon.0011.lt · Nov 13
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@maxim @chatcontrol 1) last minute, 2) behind closed doors, 3) no reports But "empowered, engaged, and informed people are the heart of our democracy" https://ec.social-network.europa.eu/@EUCommission/115536964253893646
European Commission (@EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu)
European Commission (@EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu)
Attached: 4 images Democracy is at the heart of Europe. But democracy needs care, especially when 70% of Europeans fear foreign interference in elections. Today we present the European Democracy Shield and the EU Strategy for Civil Society. Together, they'll make our democracies stronger, support independent media, and empower people and civil society to play an active role in shaping Europe’s future. Because empowered, engaged, and informed people are the heart of our democracy💪 More: htt
https://ec.social-network.europa.eu/@EUCommission/115536964253893646
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Maxim
@maxim@chaos.social · Nov 13
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@mindaugas @chatcontrol Better informed than the folks at netzpolitik.org which have been following this for years and leaking cable after cable about this, yet are not saying anything about this? I have my doubts, which is why I'm asking for a source.
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voidanix
@voidanix@mastodon.cc · Nov 13
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@maxim TechRadar has an article on this (https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/this-is-a-political-deception-new-chat-control-convinces-lawmakers-but-not-privacy-experts-yet) and cites the following links:

  • https://www.consilium.europa.eu/de/meetings/mpo/2025/11/law-enforcement-wp-lewp-police-%28361206%29/
  • https://cdn.netzpolitik.org/wp-upload/2025/11/2025-11-06_Council_Presidency_LEWP_CSA-R_Presidency-compromise-texts_14092.pdf
"This is a political deception" − New Chat Control convinces lawmakers, but not privacy experts yet
"This is a political deception" − New Chat Control convinces lawmakers, but not privacy experts yet
The EU Council seems to agree to the new compromise "without further changes"
https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/this-is-a-political-deception-new-chat-control-convinces-lawmakers-but-not-privacy-experts-yet
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Maxim
@maxim@chaos.social · Nov 13
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@voidanix Thank you! As far as I can see, they don't have details on a vote/agreement on the meeting from the 12th. The only thing about that which could be interpreted as this references the COREPER II session from November 5th, but ignores that some states (e.g. Spain & Hungary) still wanted changes to make the proposal more extreme. The cites you listed are the calendar (showing the meeting happened (knew that)) & the 2nd is the compromise text. Neither gives info on the states' positions.
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Matúš 🇸🇰🇪🇺:tux:
@dasmatus@raphus.social · Nov 13
@chatcontrol Well fuck.
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bboett
@bboett@mastodon.online · Nov 13
@chatcontrol ,🤮
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JomMayBalloon
@joshmaybal@mastodon.social · Nov 13
@chatcontrol it's coming, the surveillance state!
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Newbyte
@newbyte@mastodon.nu · Nov 13
@chatcontrol What is the source for this?
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Keimi Koshi
@KeimiKoshi@mastodon.social · Nov 13
@chatcontrol Please guys you are literraly for free speech you cannot not be on X, it's the last Free Speech plateform in France and the government want to censor it and all other plateform even without Chat Control. Your information is important and need to reach a maximum of people, Mastodon and BlueSky is not enough
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Keimi Koshi
@KeimiKoshi@mastodon.social · Nov 13
@chatcontrol Please guys X is the last plateform with free speech in France and the government want to shut down free speech on all plateform, you need to be on it to push your voice futher 🙏
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yazomie (she/her)
@Zzyzx@fe.disroot.org · Nov 15
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@KeimiKoshi @chatcontrol Wake up, there's no such thing as free speech on X or Bluesky, I don't nevessarily recommend mastodon.social either
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Keimi Koshi
@KeimiKoshi@mastodon.social · Nov 15
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@Zzyzx @chatcontrol i know but they can have more visibility 😅 seriously i got suspend from X 2 weeks there is nothing on mastodon i give up after 2 days
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