Post #4006895
2026-07-22 07:30 UTC
Replies (18)
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@tomgag@infosec.exchange 2026-07-22 10:01
@tante@tldr.nettime.org sorry, the "how will people enforce this" argument is real, dismissing it will not make it disappear. I am a regular Codeberg user, left GitHub in 2019, and co-maintain Libre projects that saw very little if none at all AI in development. And still I think this decision will backfire badly. I, like most of Codeberg users, was not even aware that this discussion was in place, did not vote. This only passed because of the anti-AI Luddite crowd. Which, mind you, has a point, I have very conflicting feelings about AI myself, and I think that the current trajectory is quite worrying. But this is just a knee-jerk reaction that has clearly not been thought of well enough. I applaude the philosophy, or the intent if you want, of not having Codeberg turn into another SlopHub. But this is fairy-tale wishful thinking. There is no way to reliably detect AI-generated code at scale in 2026. I can already smell the mutual witch hunts across projects and "camps". Anyway, I hope I'm wrong. #codeberg #ai #llm #drama #opensource #ludd #luddism #antiai #libre #foss #floss #slop #github
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@stux@mstdn.social 2026-07-22 10:45
@tante@tldr.nettime.org That’s a win!
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@ErikJonker@mastodon.social 2026-07-22 07:59
@tante@tldr.nettime.org ...just wondering if AI-assisted coding is also banned? At what point becomes AI vibe code and when is it still human-made with help of AI-tooling?
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@GroupNebula563@mastodon.social 2026-07-22 16:13
@tante@tldr.nettime.org @Codeberg@social.anoxinon.de amazing work! /gen :toot:
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@samwilson@wikis.world 2026-07-22 07:42
@tante@tldr.nettime.org I'm glad I started a regular donation to Codeberg just this week.
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@ROllerozxa@hachyderm.io 2026-07-22 14:24
@tante@tldr.nettime.org Finally some good news for once
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@SeanPLynch@mastodon.social 2026-07-22 13:52
@tante@tldr.nettime.org Wow! You're arguing, in part, that copyright infringement is problematic. If code that contains infringed material is found on Codeberg, that will cause problems. That seems like a perfectly reasonable point to make. I sure cannot argue with that. (remembering the years of SCO vs IBM). Putting aside all the other issues that people have with AI generated code, this is a very important point to raise. Thank you!
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@sylvie@gabriel.havfruefestning.com 2026-07-22 13:37
@tante@tldr.nettime.org And a reminder that if you want to help Codeberg maintain and improve lthe infrastructure so that things like Codeberg Pages have more uptime despite the slopbot DDoS onslaught, become a contributor through reoccuring donations or other means https://docs.codeberg.org/improving-codeberg/donate/
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@gabrielesvelto@mas.to 2026-07-22 12:27
@tante@tldr.nettime.org this is important for another reason: AI shops want you to label what you did with their bots so they can filter it out of their training set. If you're forced to hide your machine-generated contributions then they're more likely to end up in the training sets and poison the future generations of the models with their own outputs.
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@foolishowl@social.coop 2026-07-22 14:39
@tante@tldr.nettime.org I feel a little hope.
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@androcat@toot.cat 2026-07-22 12:20
@tante@tldr.nettime.org and there was much rejoicing
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@lu_leipzig@troet.cafe 2026-07-22 12:00
@tante@tldr.nettime.org So proud of @Codeberg@social.anoxinon.de e.V. doing the right thing here. I'm a Codeberg user since 2020 and it's so nice to see how they developed into something much bigger without compromising their values.
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@distrowatch@mastodon.social 2026-07-22 11:47
@tante@tldr.nettime.org This reinforces my decision to move my projects to Codeberg. They get it.
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@gryphonmyers@mastodon.social 2026-07-22 11:39
@tante@tldr.nettime.org it's good, I just wish they had followed Zig's lead here and gone scorched earth against slop
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@aleksei@social.fakeplastictrees.ee 2026-07-22 12:15
@tante@tldr.nettime.org "You must not share projects that mostly consist of code written by "generative AI"-tools" That sounds reasonable.
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@c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io 2026-07-22 10:28
@tante@tldr.nettime.org alright, all my projects are primarily hosting on codeberg now.
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@PurpleBooth@hachyderm.io 2026-07-22 08:36
@tante@tldr.nettime.org 7. You must not share projects that mostly consist of code written by "generative AI"-tools (including services such as *Claude*, *OpenAI Codex*). Such projects having an unclear copyright status (see requirements § 2 (1) 1 and § 2 (1) 3) and furthermore have little safeguards to ensure that they do not include harmful code (c.f. § 2 (1) 5). Is the clause that has been added. I really wish the Codeberg aup was better written. So now we have no public domain code, no private projects, no code they think is mostly AI generated. Bit of a mine field there... Not that there's no place for a project like this it's just never going to be that big which makes me sad.
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@koen_hufkens@mastodon.social 2026-07-22 08:30
@tante@tldr.nettime.org Good news. The sad news is that with only slop free contributions it will be a prime target for AI scraper bots (desperate for human "low-background" content).