Post #4009229

2026-07-22 10:01 UTC

@tante@tldr.nettime.org sorry, the "how will people enforce this" argument is real, dismissing it will not make it disappear. I am a regular Codeberg user, left GitHub in 2019, and co-maintain Libre projects that saw very little if none at all AI in development. And still I think this decision will backfire badly. I, like most of Codeberg users, was not even aware that this discussion was in place, did not vote. This only passed because of the anti-AI Luddite crowd. Which, mind you, has a point, I have very conflicting feelings about AI myself, and I think that the current trajectory is quite worrying. But this is just a knee-jerk reaction that has clearly not been thought of well enough. I applaude the philosophy, or the intent if you want, of not having Codeberg turn into another SlopHub. But this is fairy-tale wishful thinking. There is no way to reliably detect AI-generated code at scale in 2026. I can already smell the mutual witch hunts across projects and "camps". Anyway, I hope I'm wrong. #codeberg #ai #llm #drama #opensource #ludd #luddism #antiai #libre #foss #floss #slop #github

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@davidgerard@circumstances.run 2026-07-22 10:07

@tomgag@infosec.exchange @tante@tldr.nettime.org we can tell AI code because you guys *never shut up about using the bot, ever*.

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@crankylinuxuser@infosec.exchange 2026-07-22 12:25

@tomgag@infosec.exchange @tante@tldr.nettime.org When you realize the #llm hatred is just a proxy battle for endstage capitalism with a technofeudalist overlay, all of this thread makes a lot of sense. Just s/llm/endstage capitalism/g the threads. https://infosec.exchange/@crankylinuxuser/116930386027592192 And I see a lot of Ned Ludd being invoked. And most don't know his story, and believe the anti-tech propaganda. The propaganda was that he hated tech and destroyed the machines. This was the lies the capitalists told, which I'm seeing repeated here. In reality, he wanted his fellow comrades to own the means to production also ala Marx. When that didn't work, he only then relegated to destruction. And its a heresy against the #MastodonHOA to say that #LLMs are useful. And they very much are, to a point. But its chicken-little types screaming the sky is falling who runs the roost here, lest they shout you down.

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@tomgag@infosec.exchange 2026-07-22 12:41

@tante@tldr.nettime.org Just to be clear, since most of the crowd here seems to miss my point: If there were a magic spell able to flag with confidence code generated with AI by more than X% amount, whatever X or surrounding policy is, then it would all make sense. But I don't believe in magic, and you shouldn't either. Here are a few examples of what I'm afraid it's going to happen: FLOSS project "OpenHemorrhoid" splits over an intestine dev dispute on tabs-VS-spaces. Now we have "OpenHemorrhoid" and "LibreHemorrhoid" accusing each other of AI-generated code at every PR. Indie dating sim game "Kawaii Shinobi Kanojo" is targeted and harassed with unproven AI-gen reporting because the lack of nonbinary characters is interpreted as a queer-phobic political stance of the dev. Libre "ICE tracker and reporting" app is taken down not by US authority overreach, but by mass allegations of AI-generated code. Well, I hope I'm wrong, the community is very mature after all, as this thread shows, I'm sure none of this will happen.

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