Post #3252078
2026-06-10 09:42 UTC
Replies (38)
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@Grumblesock@clew.lol 2026-06-10 14:43
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot Stupid nigger lover. Kill yourself.
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@Eetschrijver@mastodon.social 2026-06-10 10:47
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot What?? When the NHS has been given all those millions that previously went to the EU??!! 😲
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@xs4me2@mastodon.social 2026-06-10 10:55
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot Grifters indeed…
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@Thebratdragon@mastodon.scot 2026-06-10 11:00
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot "Unsustainable" means private companies do not get a slice of the money as profit.
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@xekola@kolektiva.social 2026-06-10 11:08
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot Hakim elaborates on this neolib strategy in his latest piece on Reaganomics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mc-_CiHrdM
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@marjolica@social.linux.pizza 2026-06-10 11:28
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot to be fair the demands we make on the government for pensioner income (they aren't actually doing all that well, particularity the poorest) and for NHS care are increasing as the population ages and becomes increasing badly fed and unfit. However we can afford to fund this if we chose to. Strictly (according to MMT) we don't need to increases taxes but it would be perhaps it would be easier to justify if we were to tax those best able to afford it more (the rich, particularly the tax-avoiding ultra-rich and multinationals such as Amazon) and to remove the profiteering private sector out of our national services - NHS, Care, Water, Railways, Energy.
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@Fonant@social.vivaldi.net 2026-06-10 11:28
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot These things are "sustainable" if society as a whole wants them to be sustained. Public services are NOT the same as profit-making businesses. The "profit" of a public service is the "service", not money.
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@gary_alderson@infosec.exchange 2026-06-10 11:36
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot the private sector is more accountable, less govt involvement is good, see jack anderson
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@Flowermob@mastodon.social 2026-06-10 11:37
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot THe US is told it can't afford healthcare and so it allows a vulture industry to provide it at unsustainable cost. #FightBack
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@rzeta0@mastodon.ie 2026-06-10 12:01
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot The UK is the sixth biggest economy in the world. Where is all that wealth?
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@AlexanderVI@stranger.social 2026-06-10 12:02
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot too late now, I guess 🤷♂️
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@fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk 2026-06-10 12:08
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot arguably the whole point of society is standing up good things despite them being otherwise "unsustainable".
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@absolutelydefinitely@mastodon.social 2026-06-10 12:26
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot Welcome to the American Enshittification by Private Equity. You'll be just like US, which is super fucking scary
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@lrt_writes@mstdn.party 2026-06-10 12:28
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot They are not businesses and were not designed to be profitable or self-sustaining.
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@nf3xn@mastodon.social 2026-06-10 12:30
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot Hear hear! It's malign foreign influence and their agents trying to divide and conquer. How lucky are we to be Europeans! Look at all these so-called 'superpowers' that "can't afford" basic healthcare. Our very existence shames them. imho you may as well give up as a society if you cannot do the very minimum of housing, feeding, healing and educating your citizens. If there are people starving in your country by design you are in a failed state. We can obviously do better too. Still.
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@McHollander@mastodon.chasalin.nl 2026-06-10 12:35
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot Yeah, but also while there was a larger, younger population sustaining it (including the rich chipping in).
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@Walrus@toot.wales 2026-06-10 12:51
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot Whoever tells us we can't afford the things we want is a liar, plain and simple. "Anything we can do, we can afford to do", because the government creates the money it spends.
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@doncish@norden.social 2026-06-10 12:51
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot In reality millionaires, billionaires and oligarchs are unsustainable but their puppets in office are twisting the narrative in their favour.
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@renardboy@mastodon.social 2026-06-10 13:00
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot a yes, billionaires, the champions of sustainability
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@EndicottAuthor@mastodon.social 2026-06-10 13:10
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot Everything became unsustainable when the private sector, and their greed, started to much up everything.
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@somekindofgarf@kind.social 2026-06-10 13:22
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot Greedy bastards privatizing public services and then slashing it for profit is unsustainable if anything.
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@failedLyndonLaRouchite@mas.to 2026-06-10 13:27
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot stipulating that the fascists are trying to kill pensions and NHS but, that doesn't mean the pensions, in a society that is ageing, were in fact sustainable without serious reform https://ora.ox.ac.uk/objects/uuid:7734ff9d-3d05-4b9f-b239-470bedddf049/files/m0b457ad40378d5b2b6b6f876d0e3bac1
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@canleaf@mastodon.social 2026-06-10 13:46
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot why the hell does the Ontario Teacher's Pension Plan own so many buildings, shopping Centres and even airports?
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@fenixmaster@mastodon.social 2026-06-10 14:03
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot What would happen when de poor are killig the rich, one by one. There are more poor people than rich people.
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@peterbrown@mastodon.scot 2026-06-10 14:05
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot funny how the military is extremely sustainable and is receiving more funding than ever
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@the_turtle@mastodon.sdf.org 2026-06-10 14:25
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot "unsustainable" is shorthand for "doesn't make a profit specifically and only for us."
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@csgraves@turtleisland.social 2026-06-10 14:41
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot capitalism must die, the sooner the better.
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@michael@westergaard.social 2026-06-10 14:59
That's an over-simplification. Pensions were affordable when a large generation was paying for a small generation living for a short time. Now, a small generation is paying for a large generation (boomers) living forever. You do not save up for your own pension, you pay for that of your parents and grandparents. Boomers trying to get younger generations on-board with not cutting pensions is literal generation theft. Don't let them.
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@GhostOnTheHalfShell@masto.ai 2026-06-10 15:06
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot The hat trick the private sector pulled off was to redirect government spending into their own bank accounts. fresh money spent directly into their net worth. This is why nobody else has any money, because the government doesn’t spend on them anymore. Government spending is for billionaires and taxes are what everyone else pays
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@c0rb34u@hostux.social 2026-06-10 16:13
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot "unsustainable" just translates to "rich people still can't get enough giant boats out of your misery" in normal people language. Burn the billionaires.
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@Miq@hessen.social 2026-06-10 16:30
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot Oh, where's my surprised face? Who could have foreseen that? 🙄
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@Darkphoenix@universeodon.com 2026-06-10 17:27
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot same here in the US.
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@naga@toot.cat 2026-06-10 17:36
LBT from @HI_Greens@mastodon.scot was for the UK, with things like NHS that were never public sector US services. But off the top of my head for the US, utilities, USPS, Amtrak, BCBS-as-nonprofit, Medicare Advantage, managed-care Medicaid, charter schools ...
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@Suesnafu@toot.wales 2026-06-10 17:44
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot They must think we are stupid, why would private companies want to buy something unprofitable.
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@gimulnautti@mastodon.green 2026-06-10 18:20
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot ”There is no alternative” -Margaret Thatcher
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@TCatInReality@mastodon.social 2026-06-10 18:21
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot TBF, it's unsustainable with billionaire greed. It's one or the other
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@kevinrns@mstdn.social 2026-06-10 19:04
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot Billionaires are unsustainable. Tax billionaires until they are multi millionaires. Quickly.
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@EricLawton@kolektiva.social 2026-06-10 21:04
@HI_Greens@mastodon.scot Funny how the "efficient" private equivalents cost so much more. (E.g. the US "healthcare" system with two layers of profiteers) How will we be able to sustain them?