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Oliver Brendel

@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz
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I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience
Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

546 Followers
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Joined November 26, 2024
languages:
English, French, German

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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Jul 28, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @TheConversationClimate@newsie.social
@TheConversationClimate@newsie.social no. Clearly not the equivalent, as for evolution 3 3 Mio years is not the same as 50 !
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Jul 25, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @brembs@mastodon.social
@brembs@mastodon.social yes, I vote gor a different oak species on each 😁
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Jul 13, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @ombialik@mastodon.world
@ombialik@mastodon.world many journals have proof editors. But if the proof editor is not a scientist, the result can be horrifying. And also when the proof editor is a scientist, but from a very different discipline, it still will have to be re-read by the author. Words and word usage is just not the same in different disciplines.
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · May 28, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @kathhayhoe@fediscience.org
@kathhayhoe@fediscience.org what about : don't fly at all ? Go hiking or biking ? Discover the area where you live ?
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · May 18, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @neuralreckoning@neuromatch.social
@neuralreckoning@neuromatch.social do you have a link for this information please ?
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · May 17, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Sunday afternoon #clouds in perspective

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A community for scientists and science communicators.

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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Apr 29, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @cartes_app@amicale.net
@cartes_app impressionnant ! A Nancy, je vois plein de petite gouttes de différentes couleurs bouger, par conter ca depend du zoom: en zoomant un peu certains disparaissent, d'autres apparaissent. Aussi, leur trajet n'est pas forcement sur des rues, mais certaines passent au diagonale à travers les cartier (pas juste un simple gps). C'est impressionnant, mais je ne vois pas encore l'utilité. Est-ce que les gouttes pourraient être identifié par un numéro de bus en futur ?
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Apr 28, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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The south US is burning, at the end of thevarticlevthecauthor is clear : due to rising temperatures
https://theconversation.com/why-the-southeast-is-burning-extreme-drought-is-only-part-of-the-cause-281392
#ClimateChange #Forests #Wildfires

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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Apr 25, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz
Finalement je ne suis pas si malcontent : il semble que la moyenne française est de 8,2t de CO2eq par personne. Par contre tant que la partie sociale est de 1.3t, ca va etre difficile d'atteindre 2t, voir impossible : la somme des premiers 4 conseils les plus importants me donnent une reduction que de 0.5t, et la dedans il y a par exemple "zero dechets" ... https://www.statistiques.developpement-durable.gouv.fr/lempreinte-carbone-de-la-france-de-1990-2024
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Apr 25, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @tykayn@mastodon.cipherbliss.com
@tykayn non, bien sur je connais mes km annuels, ce qui est difficile c'est d'y mettre un taux de remplissage à côté : pour combien de km je suis seul, ou avec une, deux ou tris autres personnes. Pour savoir ca, il faudrait que je note chaque trajet ..
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Apr 23, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @The_Universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.com
@The_Universality @christof @EUCommission yes, Russia, and that uranium is also a limited ressource
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Apr 22, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @bonpoteofficiel@mamot.fr
@bonpoteofficiel super article bien recherché et fondé. Félicitations pour ce travail 👏
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Apr 22, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @grebert@mastodon.top
@grebert la prime vélo ? Mais elle est bien-sur ridicule comparé aux aides carburant.
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Apr 22, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @fourmiune@mastodon.world
@fourmiune @grebert sans week-end jours féries et vacances ? Je pense que grebert doit être plus vers 30km par jour 🙂
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Apr 22, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz
Super intéressant sont les conseils pour diminuer. Pour moi, passer végétalien a l’effet le plus fort. Zero déchets , covoiturer et BBq ont chaque trois fois moins d'effet (mais pour BBQ pas de fréquence demande, donc certainement surestimé ;-) Et étonnement, remplacer le café par la chicorée n’est pas loin derrière.
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Apr 22, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Nouveau calculateur individuel de #empreintecarbone
4.2t - en transition, mais pas encore assez bien . 33% sont les services sociétaux (1.3t) ajouté pour tout le monde. Le reste est à parts similaires du au logement, la nourriture et les déplacements.
Le questionnaire est assez détaillé, je trouve juste difficile a estimer les km voiture et le tau de remplissage. Et les repas sont sur une semaine, mais si on mange la viande qu'une fois par mois, on ne peu pas le mettre.

https://www.lemonde.fr/chaleur-humaine/article/2025/01/30/mesurez-votre-impact-environnement-avec-le-calculateur-d-empreinte-carbone-et-eau_6523433_6125299.html?

#ChangementClimatique
#EmpreinteCarbone
#ADEME

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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Apr 21, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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On peut que soutenir l'approche de la juridiction française concernant X
https://www.lefigaro.fr/secteur/high-tech/enquete-sur-x-elon-musk-absent-a-paris-et-accuse-la-procureure-de-marionnette-d-ong-de-gauche-20260421

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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Apr 21, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @philcowans@universeodon.com
@philcowans @UlrikeHahn yes, it's the one i read. Now I look for a programm to do the dithering :-)
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Apr 20, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @UlrikeHahn@fediscience.org
@UlrikeHahn I have recently read blog about a solar driven server. And the blogger showed that using black and white raster images instead of Jpeg was much smaller. All images as well as video stills could be replaced by these raster images, avoiding strong data traffic during scrolling, and only shown on demand. I think I'm actually not interrested in 90% of the images in my timeline
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Apr 10, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @digitalcourage@digitalcourage.social
@digitalcourage in Frankreich gibt es schon seit letztem Jahr universities.social :-)
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Apr 09, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @addison@nothing-ever.works
@addison @RMKrug well, for such a suggestion I would clearly write an argumented refusal 😁
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Apr 09, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @RMKrug@hachyderm.io
@RMKrug @addison well, reviewer self-citation or not, I didn't review this paper 😉 And adding more refs should make sense, especially if the paper was solid . Xou can always miss important refs, for example because keywording has changed over time. But this should not be an excuse to decrease the quality of the ref-work.
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Apr 07, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Aaaaahhhhhh ! One of my favourite papers, which is about the efficient use of water by plants, has just been cited in this sentence "[...] as stress-induced flower or seed abortion is typically irreversible (Brendel, 2021[...]". There is zero information in my paper about flower or seed abortion. Such wrong citations are actually nearly more the rule than the exception now, but I get §&$%"&% every time : did they not read my paper ? Why cite it then ? Do they pick random papers, just for more citations ? Have they even read the title ?
#AcademicChatter

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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Apr 03, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @marthe_kuester@fedihum.org
@marthe_kuester @correspSearch @telota @DigitalHistory Well, when I saw that Google was behind OpenRefine, I was not able to avoid the thoughts coming up of why they are investing in this and how they will use this. For making scienticic open data better readable by their AI ? #AcademicChatter
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Apr 02, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @rahmstorf@fediscience.org
@rahmstorf und warum wird es nicht gemacht ? Weil dann Steuereinnahmwn für drei Milliarden Liter Benzin im Jahr fehlen 🤣😪
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Apr 01, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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The #europeanCommision is debating the #CircularEconomy Act and has started online questionnaires where you can share your views. And there is especially one for younger citizens, from 15 to 29 years old :

https://environment.ec.europa.eu/news/young-voices-wanted-help-shape-circular-economy-act-2026-03-27_en

So please share widely across Europe, and especially with your kids and younger colleagues and friends
#ZeroWaste

More information, as well as the link for the questionnaire for >29 citizens, is here :
https://environment.ec.europa.eu/strategy/circular-economy_en

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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Mar 24, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @antoinechambertloir@mathstodon.xyz
@antoinechambertloir @clairemathieu oui, je suis d'accord, question sur la vision du candidat de la liberté académique
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Mar 24, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @alainmi11@mamot.fr
@alainmi11 @tdforg trop bien. Et à quand la France ? @lasuite #lasuitenumerique #lasuitenumérique
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Mar 15, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

scicomm.xyz
Replying to @junesim63@mstdn.social
@junesim63 The wood wide web, not as wide as it seems : this idea of interconnecting trees, based on Suzanne Simard's papers and then largely publicised by Peter Wohlleben in his book "The Hidden Life of Trees", is largely based on #CitationBias towards positive effects , as this very nice review paper here shows : https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-023-01986-1 #ForestEcology #Forests
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Mar 05, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @briney@glammr.us
@briney @QuantumDot2 Yes, naming convention is the foundation. I guess for what I was looking for returns of experience is how to tie the different files together, from raw data coming from different manual measurements or equipments, to consolidated data which would lead to some type of analysis to finalised data to be submitted to some repository. Everything could be traced by a readme.txt (or readme.md ;-) per folder, but when the data-collection is big enough, these readme's become rapidly un-readable. I was thinking about MD because some MD systems allow for automatic summaries, and MD allows linking among files, and it is pretty versatile and independent from specific software, as still human readable. I guess I'm looking for some experiences with these kind of set-ups 🙂 #AcademicChatter
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Mar 04, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @briney@glammr.us
@QuantumDot2 Thanks Andy, @briney Hello Kristin, very interesting blog, lots of usefull informations. I will have a closer look and also at your latest book. I already have "Reproducible Research with R and RStudio" by Christopher Gandrud, which also contains a chapter on data management, using markdown etc. but going further into knitr. https://www.taylorfrancis.com/books/mono/10.1201/9780429031854/reproducible-research-rstudio-christopher-gandrud
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Mar 03, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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#AcademicChatter Hello, fellow academic chatters. I'm an experimental scientist. And I regularly have the problem of how to organize acquired data by different participants to a same experiment. I'd like to have some feedback of how other people do this. Not necessarily specific computer programmes (such as digital labbooks), but rather how-tos based on robust, basic things, such as text and csv files, folder structures etc. I'm often battling with the workflow which is including handwritten measurements, their digital counterparts, metadata for the measurements, codes for samples, all of these done by different people, but all will have to end in one final dataset, where I would like to be able to trace data back to the paper files, and their metadata. And all of this with not too much additional effort by everybody ;-) Have done this usually with some shared server space, but usually it ends up as something a bit difficult to get through. I'm now rather thinking about a system involving perhaps something based on #MarkDown or even #RMarkdown or #knitr etc. Any feedback much welcome 😁
#ReproducibleResearch

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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Mar 01, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

scicomm.xyz
Replying to @rikviergever@mastodon.social
@rikviergever@mastodon.social I don't know anybody personally, but I would contact the german GLS bank, which is an socially and ecologically ethical bank. So they might be interrested also to be it digitally. And present on Mastodon 😉 @glsbank@ruhr.social
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Feb 23, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @tub@openbiblio.social
@tub@openbiblio.social retraction watch ist seit 2019 und Zotero 5 direct integriert. Kein plugin notwendig ;-) Der Link unten erklärt such dass der Vergleich "sicher" durchgeführt wird. https://www.zotero.org/blog/retracted-item-notifications/ #AcademicChatter
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Feb 17, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

scicomm.xyz
Replying to @MiguelGuerreiro@ecoevo.social
@MiguelGuerreiro@ecoevo.social hello, biologists and ecologists is a very wide field. I'm rather on the plant side of things, more specifically in #ForestEcology looking at tree #PlantPhysiology and #EcoPhysiology
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Feb 09, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @babetteknauer@mastodon.social
@babetteknauer @sandradejong Very interesting data-set. If I understand correctly, your survey concerns academic staff who followed the " University of Groningen Library's Mastodon account"; so the 275 respondents who marked "Europe" can be anywhere in Europe, not only in the Netherlands ?
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Feb 09, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @stevE@freiburg.social
@stevE well, might be, but no humanities scientist among the participants or boosters (and there clearly were) has complained about this suggested ('let's say") restriction 🙂
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Feb 08, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

scicomm.xyz
Replying to @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz
A word on bias : clearly this survey accounts only for scientists that were actively following from 2. to 9. February 2026 the science and academia related hashtags from the first post, which are in English, or were reached by the over 260 boosts, which were not only in English. The aim was not to get some robust numbers of #EUScientists on Mastodon, but to get a rough idea of coverage. Many of the people who boosted had over a hundred followers, some over a thousand. Difficult to say how much overlap there was (the possibility of a detailed analysis of all followers of all boosters would clearly be interesting), but with a mean of 200 non-overlapping followers, this survey might have reached 50.000 people or more (some boosts were organizational account with several thousand followers). Thanks for several links of other studies with a similar aim, I will have a look and report back here :-) 4/..
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Feb 08, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz
Detailed Results in votes : Austria(14),Belgium(15),Bulgaria(2),Croatia(2),Cyprus(2),Czech Republic (5),Denmark(9),Estonia(2),Finland(38),France(86),Germany(74),Greece(1),Hungary(0),Republic of Ireland (3),Italy(5),Latvia(1),Lithuania(0),Luxembourg(0),Malta(0),Netherlands(49),Poland(8),Portugal(3),Romania(0),Slovakia(0),Slovenia(2),Spain(15),Sweden(11),United Kingdom (22),Switzerland(8) 3/..
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Feb 08, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

scicomm.xyz
Replying to @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz
Detailed Results in percentages: Austria (3.6%),Belgium (4.1%),Bulgaria (0.5%),Croatia (0.5%),Cyprus (0.5%),Czech Republic (1.4%),Denmark (2.3%),Estonia (0.5%),Finland (10.0%),France (22.8%),Germany (19.8%),Greece (0.4%),Hungary (0.0%),Republic of Ireland (0.7%),Italy (1.4%),Latvia (0.4%),Lithuania (0.0%),Luxembourg (0.0%),Malta (0.0%),Netherlands (13.0%),Poland (2.2%),Portugal (0.7%),Romania (0.0%),Slovakia (0.0%),Slovenia (0.6%),Spain (4.0%),Sweden (2.9%),United Kingdom (5.9%),Switzerland (2.2%) 2/..
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Feb 08, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

scicomm.xyz
Replying to @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz
After seven days, here are the final results (thanks to all participants up to the last minute), recalculated across the three difference surveys. Overall 375 responses, only two countries around 20% (France/Germany), two around 10% (Finland/Netherlands), UK at 5,9%, all other countries have at least one respondent or up to 5% , except Hungary, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Romania, Slovakia, where zero votes were counted. So in this survey of EU scientists, who were in these seven days actively following science related hashtags, and covered by the 263 boosts, five countries represented over 70% of the respondents, and 18 countries the remaining 30%. There will be some more follow up posts However overall, given that the for me impressive number of 375 respondents is probably just a fraction of EU scientists on Mastodon, the EU coverage is quite impressive. I would propose, for subjects concerning EU scientists, to follow the existing but relatively rarely used #EUScientists #AcademicChatter 1/..
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Feb 08, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
@UlrikeHahn @Ooze @strypey Yes, if we go for public reviews, valued in the CVs, then such a review should probably include some part where the reviewer presents his understanding of the objectives of the paper and puts the objectives as well as the results into an additional bibliographic context (which could be added to the MS as some kind of editorial), allowing thus the evaluation of the competence of the reviewer, as well as the value of the review #OpenScience #PeerReview #AcademicChatter
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Feb 07, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

scicomm.xyz
Replying to @egonw@social.edu.nl
@wikidata @egonw in France, all Phds are registered in doctoral schools, and the database they use is national, so its quite easy, and therefore not only containts finished, published theses but also ongoing theses
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Feb 07, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @Unknowable@troet.cafe
@Unknowable I do not quite understand your concernc, can you explain more ? Perhaps it depends on the objective, mine is to see if from a researchers side all EU countries are represented equally on Mastodon or not. I'm looking for proportions, rather than find out absolute numbers
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Feb 05, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @babetteknauer@mastodon.social
@sandradejong @babetteknauer great, thanks a lot for sharing ! I'll have a look. It's probably less biased than my survey here 😁
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Feb 05, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @gisgeek@floss.social
@gisgeek biased certainly, but not on my connections or followers, but perhaps by the people that follow my hashtags. But that should have only been in the beginning, but given the number of boosts, some with a couple of thousands of followers ... but clearly, the end results should only be interpreted as representatif of this survey.
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Feb 05, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @aslakr@mastodon.social
@aslakr well, not an EU member state, but you are right, should have added Norway and iceland. Ahhhh , am really embarrassed. Norwegian and Icelandic scientists, please add a a comment here and I will add to the complete stats. Thanks.
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Feb 04, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz
150 responses right now to my survey of EU scientists on Mastodon. ⬆️ thats already great and thanks for boosting, but there must be more. It still runs for 3 days Any hashtags, networks etc I have missed to bring more scientists in ? Perhaps some country specific hashtags and networks ? Please reply and add hashtags Thanks #AcademicChatter
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Feb 03, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @nilsbuehler@mastodon.social
@nilsbuehler oh, vielen Dank. Obsidian ist ja eine tolle Sache. Ich hatte während meines ersten podcos einen lokalen Wiki auf Textfile basis genauso benutzt. Ich seh da eine Möglichkeit die txt files auf Markdown automatisch umzuschreiben und so auf Obsidian umzusteigen (>1000 files). Ich hin eh erstaunt dass mein Wikiserver von Windows NT noch auf 11 läuft:-)
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Oliver Brendel @olibrendel@scicomm.xyz · Feb 03, 2026
Oliver Brendel
@olibrendel@scicomm.xyz

I'm a plant physiologist doing #PlantScience, my discipline is forest tree #EcoPhysiology, which means studying how trees respond to their environment, for example how trees acclimate to #DroughtStress. More generally I’m interested in how to increase the resilience of #Forests to #ClimateChange, and I'm also in #HistoryOfScience #PhilosophyOfScience (as you can see here : https://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18965/ ), #ScienceCommunication and #OpenScience Viewpoints are my own. Boosts are not endorsements.

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Replying to @CerstinMahlow@mastodon.acm.org
@CerstinMahlow I would say "in" , reflecting thus your place of work, rather than your origins. Same as yourself, and probably as also the case for many other scientists, my "in" and "from" are also not the same :-)
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