Post #3464965
2026-06-29 06:39 UTC
Replies (40)
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@leanderlindahl@social.folkdata.se 2026-06-29 06:45
@_elena@mastodon.social it angers me that VDL and Lagarde jumped on this bandwagon apparently without any vetting – just based on some weird backroom Davos connections and apparently hold themselves too good for and too high and mighty for a presence on the open democratic #fediverse. 😠 They should plusOne the Fediverse. #plusOne
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@patpro@social.patpro.net 2026-06-29 06:46
@_elena@mastodon.social this platform is a running gag.
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@dzwiedziu@mastodon.social 2026-06-29 06:55
@_elena@mastodon.social > some W Social user complaints on X How you know when you have truly failed. @jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net
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@AubreyDeLosDestinos@101010.pl 2026-06-29 07:30
@_elena@mastodon.social @74@101010.pl This is gold.
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@aleksei@social.fakeplastictrees.ee 2026-06-29 07:18
@_elena@mastodon.social I guess I need another coffee because I don't understand how can a Bluesky relay have any impact on a platform that is "owned, run, and hosted in Europe."
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@v4rd4453n@mathstodon.xyz 2026-06-29 08:11
@_elena@mastodon.social , your article is such a friendly and open review. I enjoyed reading. Not to bump you into more w social research, ... ok, I'll say nothing
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@Selvari21106@mastodon.social 2026-06-29 08:50
@_elena@mastodon.social just stay here on Mastodon people.
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@pa27@mastodon.social 2026-06-29 09:22
@_elena@mastodon.social So, not only is it broken in function, it's broken by design. Sigh.
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@tomwor@mastodon.social 2026-06-29 10:26
@_elena@mastodon.social One of the best parts of the Fediverse is that everyone has to manage their own load - I could run my instance on a Raspberry Pi, Taylor Swift would need a server farm.
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@stux@mstdn.social 2026-06-29 12:12
@_elena@mastodon.social I am okay with that :nkohappytears:
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@chewie@mammut.gogreenit.net 2026-06-29 14:31
@_elena@mastodon.social hey, look, wsocial said they were "rushing" deployment with no code freezes... what do you expect 😜
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@cy@chaos.social 2026-06-29 06:45
@_elena@mastodon.social "give us your ID, so we can take it and not give us something in return"
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@petko@social.petko.me 2026-06-29 06:47
@_elena@mastodon.social lmao what a clown show :welp:... WSocial starting with an L...
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@0xtero@ohai.social 2026-06-29 06:51
@_elena@mastodon.social Ah the distributed AT-proto networking is going great.
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@adipoeserPursch@troet.cafe 2026-06-29 06:52
@_elena@mastodon.social #WSocial seems to be really annoying... 🤦🏾♂🤦🏾♂🤦🏾♂
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@miclgael@hachyderm.io 2026-06-29 06:53
@_elena@mastodon.social I just can't even
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@jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net 2026-06-29 06:53
@_elena@mastodon.social Thank you for this well researched article! It’s almost funny to see how at more or less every turn something in the „decentralised“ ATProto ecosystem turns out to be under control of BlueSky. #WhereIsMySurprisedFace
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@DerGiga@troet.cafe 2026-06-29 06:56
@_elena@mastodon.social I felt it got almost too much trash talking, because I never saw a danger that sane persons would join W-Social. But I was always looking forward for some funny podcast episodes analysing this f dumpster fire. Lots of popcorn potential, though it shows a sad state of EU digital governance.
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@vinterkarusell@saga.garden 2026-06-29 07:00
@_elena@mastodon.social this is just getting better and better.
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@disisdeguey@expressional.social 2026-06-29 07:14
@_elena@mastodon.social LOL
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@Datterich@darmstadt.social 2026-06-29 07:23
@_elena@mastodon.social I believe their devs are busy on some algorithm and don't have time for troubleshooting. It's something like: showReplyNumbers = realReplyNumbers^3; showBoostNumbers = realBoostNumbers^4; showLikesNumbers = realLikesNumbers * 3; Currently, they are working to add some sort of random(); to make it look less obvious while their management intensifies marketing efforts. /1!11
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@hyblon@social.vivaldi.net 2026-06-29 07:35
@_elena@mastodon.social Schadenfreude my old friend...
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@gilgwath@social.tchncs.de 2026-06-29 08:02
@_elena@mastodon.social well, well, well. If only there wad a ready-to-deploy, battle tested, and opensource solution for this problem. But as usual in this unjust and dreary world the surveillance capitalist need to do everything from scratch. All a lone, without help. Or rhyme or reason.
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@hardy@social.netspectrum.de 2026-06-29 08:28
@_elena@mastodon.social Thank you for this article, Elena. To sum up: People on the #fediverse, the network that European career politicians decided was beneath them, help VC-backed #wsocial get their act together. Fedi, you are too good for this world.
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@usti@witter.cz 2026-06-29 08:38
@_elena@mastodon.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu EU Commission, please read Elena's article – and, if possible, let us know what you have to say about this: “European institutions moved their accounts to W Social in order to have their data "hosted in Europe" but aside from their PDS, everything affecting their accounts is still relying on American infrastructure owned by Bluesky PBC. At least when they had their accounts on Bluesky, they were on an open network…”
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@juliette@mastodon.green 2026-06-29 08:50
@_elena@mastodon.social conspiracy theory for this level of incompetence: this is manufactured by American Big Tech 1) pitch W as THE Euro social network, and somehow got it presented as if there was nothing else out there 2) make it a terrible user experience for the newbies who try it 3) wait for the articles in non-specialist media to come in "Europe just can't do social" 4) answer that to anyone who talks about fediverse in the future (ignoring that fedi is not European - but it *feels* european to some).
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@harjon@universeodon.com 2026-06-29 09:15
@_elena@mastodon.social It shows how "decentralised" the #atprotocol network is. Most services seem to rely on the main #bluesky relay which can cut them off at a moments notice!
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@susannelilith@rheinneckar.social 2026-06-29 09:18
@_elena@mastodon.social Endlich ein soziales Netzwerk für Jugendliche. Man kann sich registrieren, aber nicht anmelden. Absolut sicher! /s #wsocial
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@Tywele@corteximplant.com 2026-06-29 09:29
@_elena@mastodon.social tbh I'm a bit happy about W Social failing so hard.
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@paulschoe@mastodon.world 2026-06-29 09:46
@_elena@mastodon.social Fabulous, supportive article, Elena. (I am not a fan of WSocial at all. They claim to be the solution while they are not)
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@sharan@metalhead.club 2026-06-29 10:04
RE: https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116832021297021883 Ridiculously bad start, probably the worst I've seen in 20+ years of using socials. I created my profile and locked in the username. Now I can't log in, and I can't reset the password since the system says my account doesn't exist. I've mailed support; let's see what comes of it. Me staying on Mastodon is the number one probability 😆 #wsocial #socialmedia
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@thgie@post.lurk.org 2026-06-29 10:04
Thanks @_elena@mastodon.social! Wonderful insights and thanks for investing your energies into this research. Another take away for me pertains how the Fediverse is 'complicated' to get into and stick around. Seeing how many political and institutional actors moved to #WSocial overly quick tells me that it isn't healthy either, to not know what's happening behind the scenes. Apparently, these actors haven't learned a thing, neither about the past, nor about network infrastructures. At least with the bit of friction you have with the fediverse, you have a didactic moment of realising that servers are somebody else's computer.
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@VincentTunru@fosstodon.org 2026-06-29 10:06
@_elena@mastodon.social Only slightly related, but to make it easier to redact parts of screenshots, I once wrote this extension that might be helpful: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/obfuscator/ (Idea came from this Mastodon post: https://chaos.social/@maris/108379392423588799)
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@decisaias@chaos.social 2026-06-29 10:40
@_elena@mastodon.social Oh, a new wsocial article. Thank you :)
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@xinit@mastodon.coffee 2026-06-29 10:45
@_elena@mastodon.social That solution "Stop doing {waves arms all around W} all this" :D
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@darkpixel@infosec.exchange 2026-06-29 10:45
@_elena@mastodon.social You love to see it. 🤭
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@Phobos@feels.moe 2026-06-29 10:56
@_elena@mastodon.social People use that piece of shit joke of a platform? lol Oh, yeah, right, EU "folks".
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@emsquared@social.coop 2026-06-29 11:34
@_elena@mastodon.social This is playing out just as badly on Bluesky from what I read so brand well and truly trashed. Eurosky likely to be the happy recipient of disgruntled European users though they don't have the funding of W (in this case it has made little difference). Late stage capitalism eh. Just an undisciplined cash grab and to hell with working product or even ethical behaviour.
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@endecasillabo@mastodon.bida.im 2026-06-30 05:36
@_elena@mastodon.social #WSocial has been secretly funded by #Nintendo as a promo venture for their next #Wario product :)
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@jornfranke@social.anoxinon.de 2026-06-30 14:19
@_elena@mastodon.social You have been referenced in a German IT magazine on that issue (behind paywall): https://social.heise.de/@ct_Magazin/116839474830468838 Edit: They said you were one of the first documenting the disappearing source code