Post #3317423
2026-06-14 13:00 UTC
Replies (22)
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@ohir@social.vivaldi.net 2026-06-14 13:28
@spaf@mstdn.social > Historical comparisons to Roman imperial decline are incorrect. Actually, such comparisons are entirely accurate and valid. The mechanics of corruption in power have remained unchanged from the days of the first cave empire to the present day. > But the Romans had better roads, principled senators, and respect for science. That was also the case in America during Roosevelt's presidency and up until Kennedy's. Corruption and the decline of the ...
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@skua@mastodon.social 2026-06-14 14:19
@spaf@mstdn.social And let's not forget their effective Praetorian Guard.
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@beckermatic@mastodon.la 2026-06-14 16:01
@spaf@mstdn.social Do not forget about Tiberio, and his Capri island, where he kept his “little fishes” (i. e. small children). Any resemblance to Epstein Island is just what it is.
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@2legged@mastodon.ie 2026-06-14 16:53
@spaf@mstdn.social The Romans kept slaves, invaded lots of places, occupied huge territories, killed lots of people. That's why the USA copied the architecture and symbolism of the Roman Empire. People who like invasion, occupation, killing and slavery mourn the decline of both empires. Decent people say good riddance to both the Roman and USAnian empires
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@CJPaloma@mstdn.social 2026-06-14 16:55
@spaf@mstdn.social Okay, you have a point. But both the Roman Empire and this modern day Trumpian dystopia were/are also racist patriarchies full of shallow status chasing fools. Not at all a coincidence
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@cmsdengl@mas.to 2026-06-14 16:56
@spaf@mstdn.social Did the Romans chisel the names of failed Emperors off the Colosseum or has DC started a new trend ? ;-)
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@domo@pizza.enby.city 2026-06-14 17:05
@spaf@mstdn.social I'll give you the better roads, but the other stuff isn't really a good comparison given the slavery, invasions, and colonization. Also they knew lead was causing health issues and used it anyway. I don't think they really cared about science if it could have meant a drop in wealth for the wealthiest of men.
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@lmgenealogy@mstdn.ca 2026-06-14 17:08
@spaf@mstdn.social I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry at this. Funny the way you said it, really sad that it's true.
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@jef@mastodon.social 2026-06-14 17:23
@spaf@mstdn.social "Rome: The Bad Parts"
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@dragoniff2@kolektiva.social 2026-06-14 17:25
@spaf@mstdn.social and better art
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@Kierkegaanks@beige.party 2026-06-14 17:28
@spaf@mstdn.social cleaner water
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@disorderlyf@todon.eu 2026-06-14 17:29
@spaf@mstdn.social Rome also had Senators who were literally willing to kill their totalitarian leader and employed the help of one of said leader's strongest allies.
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@ddetmer@mastodon.social 2026-06-14 17:53
@spaf@mstdn.social And Horse appointed as First Counsel. We have our own Caligula. Miller must be the first counsel?
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@qwazix@bananachips.club 2026-06-14 17:54
@spaf@mstdn.social also when an emperor was bad they assassinated them. Usually less than 8 years in.
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@LukefromDC@kolektiva.social 2026-06-14 18:46
@spaf@mstdn.social When this was first promoted it has serious Hunger Games vibes. That series was set in a highly degenerated leftover from the US after a general collapse
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@the_wub@mastodon.social 2026-06-14 18:48
@spaf@mstdn.social Perhaps one of the more unpleasant details of Trump's UFC gladiator fight night is that the rules of the game permit choking your opponent to just before the point of death. If #Trump gets a kick out of watching that kind of thing then I wonder what details regarding Trump's sexual proclivities might be hiding in the rest of the Epstein files. #epsteinfiles
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@lisp_1@social.vivaldi.net 2026-06-14 18:57
@spaf@mstdn.social Don't forget the Aqueduct. #MontyPython #LifeOfBrian
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@tankgrrl@hachyderm.io 2026-06-14 19:09
@spaf@mstdn.social Perhaps it's more accurate to say we're more akin to Carthage.
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@bytebro@mastodonapp.uk 2026-06-14 19:31
@spaf@mstdn.social ...and they actually stabbed twats that tried to become kings or emperors. You people have a little way to go yet.
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@Amgine@mamot.fr 2026-06-14 22:27
@spaf@mstdn.social I might also point to the sanctity of bookkeeping in the early half of their history. That is, they had accountants. And they appear to have been generally uncorrupted, thereby unleashing efficiency experts on the field of combat, er, governance. Which is why we know how many nails were necessary to successfully conduct a campaign of subjugation, then. A factoid rarely discussed these days.
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@deedeeque@techhub.social 2026-06-14 22:40
@spaf@mstdn.social Comparisons with the decline and fall of the Republic might be more apt.
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@muddle@infosec.exchange 2026-06-15 04:39
@spaf@mstdn.social dang... 3 months past the ides of march...