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2025-10-09 08:44 UTC

Oh wow, the @frameworkcomputer team's reply to them supporting far-right racists is terrible: https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-right-racists/75986/2. I don't want to spend money with a company that has a "big tent" policy and allows people to piss in it. I never want to be in a tent with people pissing in it. OSS does not need it. Speaking as a German - this 'big tent' approach just doesn't work. Today is a good day to write to support@frame.work using your shop email address. I will. #framework #noBigTentPiss

Replies (19)

  • @nd@chaos.social 2025-10-09 09:20

    @scammo@chaos.social @frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org puh :/ was looking at them for me next notebook, but seems like I'll have to keep searching :( actually liked their approach and hardware a lot, especially now after modern thinkpads became kinda crappy choices

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  • @wonka@chaos.social 2025-10-09 11:04

    @frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org, congratulations, your "big tent" is now a Nazi bar. Remove them or we will not come back. (FTR, I wrote this using my Framework Laptop 16.) @scammo@chaos.social

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  • @betalars@chaos.social 2025-10-09 11:22

    @scammo@chaos.social wow there goes the entire #repairability argument out the window. If I have to pay a company that donates to fascists for replacement parts, my @frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org is not a lot more repairable than a mac. Edit: oof the irony. apparently hyperland contributers believe in great replacement. Well that is not the kind of replacement I associated with framework until now.

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  • @liaizon@social.wake.st 2025-10-09 11:54

    @scammo@chaos.social @frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org its not just the team. Thats the CEO and founder :(

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  • @momo@social.linux.pizza 2025-10-09 12:02

    @scammo@chaos.social I'm kinda thankful for them finding these open words. You know, people don't change at heart when they receive backlash. They resist or, if the price for resistance is too hight, fall silent, become compliant and wait for changing times where they can safely fall back into their old behavior. So no, I'm not going to complain. They are now marked as what they are which earned them a spot on my permanent shit list. If they want that to change, they have to do way more than just a half-hearted "Ok, we're sorry". And that's why I'm thankful. Makes it easier to handle them. @frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org

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  • @wyatt@soc.megatokyo.moe 2025-10-09 14:26

    @scammo@chaos.social @frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org could i get a screenshot so i don't murder my core 2 duo thinkpad trying to read discourse?

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  • @jaredwhite@indieweb.social 2025-10-09 15:05

    @scammo@chaos.social @frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org Framework can get bent with that absolutely horrible response to valid community feedback. When you're confronted with examples of racism, white supremacy, and bigotry of all sorts (DHH has literally called large black women "grotesque" and advocated for beauty standards like thin, blonde, & blue-eyed), you don't just say we're a big tent. We 🫶 open source. *Open source is itself a political movement.* You don't get to say you're a-political. This is fucking bullshit.

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  • @tom@typo.social 2025-10-09 16:25

    @scammo@chaos.social does that mean if Linux is used by far-right racists you'll stop using Linux? and same with like do racists buy Coke then I don't drink Coke? The line needs to be drawn yes, but elsewhere.

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  • @realtegan@wandering.shop 2025-10-09 18:44

    @scammo@chaos.social @frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org Not ready to buy a new laptop yet, but they were high on my list to check out when I did. Now I can cross them off. Any time leadership says, "big tent" or "nonpolitical" it means they don't give a fuck if they are supporting/giving money to people who want to kill me. So I won't give money to them.

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  • @daihard@sharkey.world 2025-10-09 19:03

    @scammo@chaos.social @frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org I totally agree with you. Looks like many others in the forum do as well, though this one comment really irritated me. I like good open source software. I do not care about the politics of the people behind the softwareAttitudes like this only help hate and bigotry creep further into the world of open source.

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  • @elithebearded@fed.qaz.red 2025-10-09 19:37

    @scammo@chaos.social @frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org I did. I see the topic on the forum is locked right now, so I can't comment there

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  • @scaramanga@union.place 2025-10-09 20:06

    @scammo@chaos.social @frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org "We support open source software (and hardware), and partner with developers and maintainers across the ecosystem. We deliberately create a big tent, because we want open source software to win." It won already. Now do something.

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  • @lgehr@chaos.social 2025-10-09 20:55

    @scammo@chaos.social Has someone started to held the techtips man (linus) responsible yet? He is a vocal investor. @frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org

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  • @artfulrobot@floss.social 2025-10-09 21:56

    Wow @frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org just wow. Do you have any idea who buys (ahem, bought) from you? So disappointing. I've loved my #framework and have encouraged others to buy. I was encouraged by someone myself. People were saying good things because you were being POLITICAL in taking about sustainability, repair-ability. Please come to your senses, fast.

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  • @scammo@chaos.social Wow I read some of the thread too, and that's just incredibly disappointing. Lots of people in there have views that are abhorrent and ignorant. Really displeased to see that. Bad faith actors exploiting loopholes, part infinity. Will stop recommending framework until they get their tent sized properly. @frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org

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  • @dwenius@toot.cat 2025-10-10 14:33

    @scammo@chaos.social @jwz@mastodon.social @frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org Jesus Christ there are so many idiots in those replies. Idiots of the “that policy doesn’t EXPLICITLY call for killing minorities, so clearly it’s not a threat” variety. I am so tired.

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  • @F3715H@rubber.social 2025-10-13 08:47

    @kkarhan@infosec.space thanks for letting me know why...

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  • @djsf@fosstodon.org 2025-10-13 09:26

    @scammo@chaos.social @frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org there is no tent big enough for these guys; eventually they will want the whole tent.

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  • @scammo@chaos.social @frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org Sad to read and especially nonsensical because Omarchy isn't even a distro. You could just send hardware to Arch Linux and would be good.

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