Post #1202340
2026-04-16 16:54 UTC
Replies (32)
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@stux@mstdn.social 2026-04-16 18:39
@manlycoffee@techhub.social Exactly what I was thinking also!
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@jonathankoren@sfba.social 2026-04-16 17:05
@manlycoffee once again, Estonia leads the way on tech
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@wbftw@hachyderm.io 2026-04-16 17:30
@manlycoffee I don’t think an ableist framing of the issue is necessary or helpful; there are serious issues that warrant a much much deeper look: * was the office of the Privacy Commissioner of Canada consulted and what was their position? * the framing of the issue — the proposal voted for at the Liberal Party convention describes a specific approach, without looking at the root cause. What other approaches were considered? * Were the downstream effects of the suggested approach considered, and what issues have been raised? * Why was this issue voted on in a party convention, without an input from general public, esp. without input from people working in adjacent fields? I seriously doubt the Office of the Privacy Commissioner was ever consulted or involved in what is already a clusterfuck, which should be a huge scandal and a wtf in general.
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@shaman007@mastodon.andreybondarenko.com 2026-04-16 18:03
@manlycoffee this fuckers with their fucking shit again. Can we somehow stop them?
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@NicelyManifest@mastodon.social 2026-04-16 18:08
@manlycoffee They should do both. Too many ways phones are toxic to child development.
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@ladupla@mastodon.social 2026-04-16 18:14
@manlycoffee The PISA 2022 educational survey considers Estonian school students have the best school results in Europe & are among the world's 🔝 8! 😜 👏 🧠 💭 👩🏫 🌳 https://www.educationestonia.org/estonias-pisa-2022-results-consistently-among-the-worlds-best/ The Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA) by the OECD (Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development)
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@peterbrown@mastodon.scot 2026-04-16 18:20
@manlycoffee Estonia would seem to be one of the most tech literate countries in the world.
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@bureaux@mastodon.social 2026-04-16 18:30
@manlycoffee should!!! "should" makes your conscience feel good.
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@awkapuma@mastodon.social 2026-04-16 18:56
@manlycoffee I think its a trap the argument, you have to choose: ban or regulation. I think both are needed. ¿What is the psicological and social imperative to a kid for needing social media? Kids have other far more important imperatives: their rights to play, to socialize, health, education and healthy family and enviroment... not social media of #bigtech Also, social media needs to be regulated, heavily. Socials #bigtechs creates adiction and anxiety for everyone.
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@bytebro@mastodonapp.uk 2026-04-16 19:19
@manlycoffee FWIW, I completely agree with Estonia here!
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@Freedom2B@kolektiva.social 2026-04-16 19:38
@manlycoffee Here in the States, they can take phones from my niblings when they get rid of the goddam war machines from civilians.
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@davesh@hachyderm.io 2026-04-16 19:46
@manlycoffee Considering most efforts to "ban" tech platforms is really just a play at surveillance overreach, regulating the platforms themselves seems like a more logical step forward in the name of safety.
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@ringo32@mastodon-belgium.be 2026-04-16 19:54
@manlycoffee personally is from both. Internet is also kinda like drugs. Sure kids find there way. But there is also lot of sadness online doing also. Kids also meet offline other kids. If there vertification in place you can regulate big tech also.
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@Ejby1968@mastodon.social 2026-04-16 20:07
@manlycoffee capitalism in general needs regulation and need to pay their fair share.
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@AnnieBuddy@thecanadian.social 2026-04-16 20:13
@manlycoffee They would rather let corporations profit off our data than protect us by regulating them. They will still know you have children. They will still know your children's ages. They will still know your children's preferences for everything you buy them. When your kids age out, they will still have no privacy. They will have no skills for dealing with or interacting with others. But the tech giants will be rich.
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@Hiltibrant@mastodon.social 2026-04-16 20:21
@manlycoffee Ignorant proposal! Social media is a peril drug for the brain development. If there are age restrictions for some legal drugs like alcohol or cannabis, it must be the same restriction for the use of social media until a certain age. 16 is too early as the brain finishes its development by the age of 21.
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@TuutW@mastodon.nl 2026-04-16 20:22
@manlycoffee Yes, our European leaders still don't know the difference between cause and effect.
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@NineStonesClose@mastodon.social 2026-04-16 20:31
@manlycoffee yep, but most European leaders are too scared to stand up to big tech.
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@dawid_dettlaff@mastodon.social 2026-04-16 20:52
@manlycoffee why not both?
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@elfburgerman@mastodon.social 2026-04-16 21:30
@manlycoffee Why regulate Big Tech if we can boycott it? (Also, why write about banning kids from social media? Kids are only banned from adtech, which is at best quasi-social and shouldn't be indicated with a term that fits platforms in the fediverse, which are truly social in every aspect. Words matter...)
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@landelare@mastodon.gamedev.place 2026-04-17 00:20
@manlycoffee Age checks *ONLY* never made any sense. 😮💨 "To all those adults being harmed by social media, well, sucks to be you I guess, now upload that ID. Sincerely, Your totally caring government 😘"
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@starraven@mastodon.scot 2026-04-17 00:41
@manlycoffee I'm certainly planning a massive fediverse education blitz should age laws come to pass in Canada.
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@tasket@infosec.exchange 2026-04-17 02:07
@manlycoffee The assumption that both sides here now want to codify is that small children must be tethered to remote central computers running secret attention-manipulating algorithms, and potentially every other person on Earth, unsupervised. Absurd just 15y ago, and still none of its proponents will explicitly demand it, because it still sounds insane when it is articulated. This shit is getting scary fast because the dialogue around it is so half-baked. Like what we have now is equivalent to Clipper Chips and a boot planted directly on the face of open source. Pull your heads out of your f_cking streaming channels and reflect for a change. You want to knee-jerk advocate for something that you think is the exact opposite of The Bad Thing, and that becomes the social media talking point... but what I see is people who don't bother to examine the issues in any detail. The result is lose, and lose and then lose again. Hey... lose everything, why not.
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@energisch_@troet.cafe 2026-04-17 05:03
@manlycoffee Full agreement on all points 💯
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@StefanHirsch@mastodon.social 2026-04-17 06:18
@manlycoffee agreed! unfortunately, they don't have the guts to stand up to trump and his cronies.
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@badrihippo@fosstodon.org 2026-04-17 08:16
@manlycoffee they have free public transport. What do you expect?
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@Kierkegaanks@beige.party 2026-04-17 14:08
@manlycoffee hitting so hard i bet they’re Putin’s next three day special operation
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@markwyner@mas.to 2026-04-17 17:25
@manlycoffee exactly! The problem isn’t that kids want to explore, it’s that big tech are adult monsters who know better and don’t care.
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@greenfrogg@mas.to 2026-04-17 21:00
World Amateur Radio Day! 18th april https://www.iaru.org/on-the-air/world-amateur-radio-day/ #hamradio de PA2LIA
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@adamsaidsomething@mastodon.social 2026-04-17 21:37
@manlycoffee And orders of magnitude smarter (or less authoritarian) then Pedro Sanchez, Emmanuel Macron, Mette Frederiksen, Kyriakos Mitsotakis, Keir Starmer, and most other world leaders right now it seems
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@Tattered@social.vivaldi.net 2026-04-17 22:35
@manlycoffee …“is orders of magnitude” less in thrall to USian political interests “than”…
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@goss@c.im 2026-04-17 23:08
@manlycoffee I want to move to Estonia. Now. Like, right now