Post #1081856
2023-11-14 08:56 UTC
Replies (40)
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@h5e@tech.lgbt 2023-11-14 14:52
Apparently this resonates 😂 (I have been known to boost this particular image twice or trice before tbh)
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@shi@tech.lgbt 2023-11-14 09:01
@h5e@tech.lgbt whenever people say this, all I can think of is: "COPY without formatting" should be the default, paste should paste whatever is on the clipboard. 😅
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@drakeblue@mastodon.gamedev.place 2023-11-14 09:40
@h5e@tech.lgbt it should at least always be available. The frequency with which I have to do the “paste in a text editor, copy again” trick is just sad.
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@adaliabooks@ohai.social 2023-11-14 09:40
@h5e@tech.lgbt Absolutely, the amount of times I paste something into notepad and then copy it again to where I actually want it to go is ridiculous. I particularly like whatever the hell Gmail does with formatting that means you can never seem to paste into or out of it without completely messing up what you've typed.
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@synthBirba@misskey.social 2023-11-14 09:48
@h5e@tech.lgbt This meme was made by the CTRL + SHIFT + V Gang
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@LauraJMG@wandering.shop 2023-11-14 09:50
@h5e@tech.lgbt Co-signed.
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@textcontainer@det.social 2023-11-14 10:18
@h5e@tech.lgbt This!
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@housepanther@masto.goblackcat.net 2023-11-14 11:42
@h5e@tech.lgbt Yes, it definitely should!
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@PossiblyMax@hachyderm.io 2023-11-14 11:53
@h5e@tech.lgbt It might be nice to be able to set a system wide variable (like dark/light mode) and allow apps to read the setting and use that by default. I personally usually prefer formatted paste, but I like the idea of allowing the user the option - just please not in every app individually! 😅
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@mmby@mastodon.social 2023-11-14 11:57
@h5e@tech.lgbt I will also keep * dying * on this hill
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@Jgmeadows@mstdn.ca 2023-11-14 12:18
@h5e@tech.lgbt Amen!! (I'm a big fan of plain text.)
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@pthane@toot.wales 2023-11-14 12:20
@h5e@tech.lgbt Agreed. Meanwhile, if you're copying from a web page the 'copy plain text' browser plugin is useful.
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@JHB17@mastodon.online 2023-11-14 12:23
@h5e@tech.lgbt Especially MS Word. Paste, click, right-click, click plain-text, every time.
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@Pxtl@mastodon.social 2023-11-14 12:29
@h5e@tech.lgbt I have a slightly more nuanced take: 99% of the time what people want is the stuff implemented by markdown. That is, bold stays bold, italic stays italic, bullets stay bullets, but font size and styling goes away. That's the real problem - if I copy text in 30 pt Comic Sans, I don't want that. But if I copy a list of bullet points, I want them to stay bullet points. Also, when I do copy with style/format, it should reproduce perfectly. But html is a trash language. So we get mangled.
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@VacantInside@mastodonapp.uk 2023-11-14 12:37
@h5e@tech.lgbt please tell me you copied and pasted this from somewhere
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@Primo@donphan.social 2023-11-14 12:46
@h5e@tech.lgbt yes please! *can't remember the shortcut for it and ends up using editor instead*
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@JeffreyJDean@hcommons.social 2023-11-14 12:49
@h5e@tech.lgbt I use the macOS utility Paste Plain Text (Fiplab), which lets me set “Automatically clear formatting” as default, but also to switch back and forth, and (when formatting is cut or copied) to “Clear formatting from the clipboard”. @teresa_arroyo@mastodon.social
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@pnwpetey@mstdn.social 2023-11-14 12:59
@h5e@tech.lgbt Rage on, sister! I’m with you every step of the way.
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@alan@velodrama.cc 2023-11-14 13:07
@h5e@tech.lgbt YES! It's so annoying when it's not the default.
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@woollypigs@sudomakecake.ddns.net 2023-11-14 13:07
@h5e@tech.lgbt let's hope that our deaths will not be in vain
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@hikari@mendeddrum.org 2023-11-14 13:08
@h5e@tech.lgbt Oh god yes.
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@ednl@mastodon.social 2023-11-14 13:12
@h5e@tech.lgbt @geerlingguy@mastodon.social I passionately agree. I think the trouble is that we know how to work around it being formatted but there are many (so. many.) more people who don't when it's not formatted.
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@suetanvil@freeradical.zone 2023-11-14 13:25
@h5e@tech.lgbt This. Also, as a long-time Linux user, copy-with-anything-other-than-plain-text is a new thing that I'm only starting to get used to. (Being able to paste a picture into Mastodon is *really* nice, though.)
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@the5thColumnist@mstdn.ca 2023-11-14 13:25
@h5e@tech.lgbt hear hear
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@pjakobs@mastodon.green 2023-11-14 13:27
@h5e@tech.lgbt so much so!
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@JeremyMallin@autistics.life 2023-11-14 13:30
@h5e@tech.lgbt 💯‼️
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@http_error_418@hachyderm.io 2023-11-14 13:33
@h5e@tech.lgbt I have backed off from this one because I read that Microsoft actually ran numbers on this and found more people wanted to keep formatting than not. However I will back you to the hilt if you were to suggest it should be possible to set a different default for your system.
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@MoBlack@mastodon.online 2023-11-14 13:53
@h5e@tech.lgbt Factual
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@RnDanger@infosec.exchange 2023-11-14 14:05
@h5e@tech.lgbt 10% it's a feature, 90% it's a nnoying
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@rusty@ma.zcx.cc 2023-11-14 14:19
@h5e@tech.lgbt - I would argue that the copy buffer may have a source link that can be pasted separately _IF_THE_PERSON_PASTING_IS_LOOKING_FOR_THAT_, not by default. Perhaps with 'ctrl-alt-Insert' or other less used key combination. At the very least, options for 'paste' should be provided the first couple of times someone paste's into a document, with one of those options being to 'set this as default.'
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@mschomm@bonn.social 2023-11-14 14:32
@h5e@tech.lgbt And there should be standardised keyboard shortcuts for both options.
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@infosec812@foojay.social 2023-11-14 14:39
@h5e@tech.lgbt #OMG and Microsoft Teams is the worst offender @delawen@floss.social
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@darthyparker@mastodon.social 2023-11-14 14:49
@h5e@tech.lgbt And I shall die beside you. ⚔️
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@taatm@mathstodon.xyz 2023-11-14 14:52
@h5e@tech.lgbt Also, highlighting shouldn’t grab formatting by default. Especially line breaks*! Highlight inner bullet point, paste, document blows up. Hit enter and I’m in a new section as that followed the second level bullet point. Actually this also needs changing. As a programmer, I’d put the section break in front of the title of the next section, not on the end of the previous thing. You are opening a new thing, not closing the old one, it’s even in the name! *Carriage return for the older folks.
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@mark@mastodon.fixermark.com 2023-11-14 14:53
@h5e@tech.lgbt It's not because of discoverability. When people see an unformatted paste, they don't assume they pushed the wrong button and didn't get the formatting... They assume this is not a context where formatted paste could work. ... That having been said, me too. 😉
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@jake4480@c.im 2023-11-14 14:54
@h5e@tech.lgbt
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@eroc1990@mastodon.parastor.net 2023-11-14 15:00
@h5e@tech.lgbt Preach!
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@lori@hackers.town 2023-11-14 15:08
@h5e@tech.lgbt especially, and I cannot stress this enough, in a spreadsheet
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@gcvsa@mstdn.plus 2023-11-14 15:09
@h5e@tech.lgbt It used to be the default, but then coders fucked it up in the name of "adding features".
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@dalius_berger@plush.city 2023-11-14 15:14
@h5e@tech.lgbt yes, I have pasted text in the url bar so many times to clear the formating. Additionaly if you paste multiline text in a single line input, it should just strip the line breaks