2023-08-04 19:24 UTC
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@netspooky@haunted.computer 2023-08-04 21:42
For everyone wondering why I bought a cheap HP, I got it when I lived in a pretty rural area and needed to print and sign a document out by the morning. I got it at Walmart and it was one of the only printers there, and the cheapest by a non-trivial amount. It can be hard to find printing services for many people, and if you do it can be outrageously expensive. These ultra cheap printers are sometimes the best option for people. Anyone who buys or has one should also know that they don't have to make some HP account, download an app, or give them any info if they just need to print out a couple pages.
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@gorplop@pleroma.m68k.church 2023-08-04 19:58
@netspooky@haunted.computer my current printer is a HP laserjet 1011 that I hastily bought a year ago on local classifieds, becauase I had to print something for the next day. I paid $20 and I met the guy at 10pm that day. It still works. The drivers suck but the consumables for that model are the cheapest on the market. I'm not getting any HP wifi connected printer ever. Considering making a network print server, but I cant find linux drivers for it...
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@sofia@chaos.social 2023-08-04 20:16
@netspooky@haunted.computer "please don't use the USB port because were assholes 🥺"
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@steeph@todon.eu 2023-08-04 20:31
@netspooky@haunted.computer I don't see what the use of hiding the port is for them.
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@SRAZKVT@tech.lgbt 2023-08-04 20:39
@netspooky@haunted.computer it's fucking HP what did you expect
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@tammeeee@estrogen.network 2023-08-04 20:43
@netspooky@haunted.computer wtf
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@sbb@mstdn.ca 2023-08-04 20:46
@netspooky@haunted.computer Don't get me started about printers. 🤬🙄 #dukkha IMHO, one should be "printing" (posting) to one's website, then sharing RESTful URLs to the webpage which is the content one believed one needed to print. Confidential subject matter can be shared from #Nextcloud or a team collaboration tool like #Mattermost Team server, which have straightforward access controls. These methods are arguably more #EcoFriendly , as well.
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@novenary@akko.wtf 2023-08-04 20:48
@netspooky@haunted.computer I don't exactly read this as a lack of a usb port but as a "don't bother since it has wifi", it even has the little arrow showing that you can peel it off they wouldn't need to re-engineer anything if all they did was to remove the usb connector and block off the hole so it's entirely plausible that they could do this if they really wanted to
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@ellesaurus@toot.lgbt 2023-08-04 20:49
@netspooky@haunted.computer If you go straight to the USB and never download the app, the printer will disable itself after a couple days and require you to download the app. Never buy an HP printer.
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@BBQDeveloper@catcatnya.com 2023-08-04 21:01
@netspooky@haunted.computer I'm an HP technician, their laptops suck so badly too lmao, the cheap paper thin plastic snaps every time I try to work with it
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@ultra0@wetdry.world 2023-08-04 21:12
@netspooky@haunted.computer "yes there's a usb port but please pretend it doesn't exist pretty please with a cherry on top"
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@gme@bofh.social 2023-08-04 21:19
@netspooky@haunted.computer Stop. Buying. HP. Printers. HP has zero incentive to change their business practices or business model because people continue to buy their printers, further validating their business practices and business model. HP isn't the only printer manufacturer. Neither Canon, Fujitsu, Brother, etc. screw over their customers like HP does. Nowhere close.
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@noplexa@stop.voring.me 2023-08-04 21:20
@netspooky@haunted.computer It still needs to be connected to wifi, otherwise it refuses to print anything after ~5 pages. At least mine did.
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@HeavenlyPossum@kolektiva.social 2023-08-04 21:22
@netspooky@haunted.computer Industrial Sabotage, exhibit a
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@ZeirosLion@lgbt.io 2023-08-04 21:26
@netspooky@haunted.computer HP being sloppier than the Wizard of Oz here.
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@TomF@mastodon.gamedev.place 2023-08-04 21:27
@netspooky@haunted.computer It's so weird that the sticker covering the USB port that claims there's no USB port *also* has the little "pull here to remove" corner tag on it. Huge "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" energy.
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@jyrgenn@mas.to 2023-08-04 21:32
@netspooky@haunted.computer And, let me guess, over Wi-Fi it is just TCP raw whatever to the JetDirect port 9100?
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@Xaikhal@infosec.exchange 2023-08-04 21:40
@netspooky@haunted.computer Absolutely refuse to buy a HP printer.
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@fluffery@fedi.omada.cafe 2023-08-04 21:42
@netspooky@haunted.computer whats the printer "without a usb port"
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@river555@tech.lgbt 2023-08-04 21:54
@netspooky@haunted.computer I'm surprised they didn't just not put a hole in the plastic....
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@elsie@girlc.at 2023-08-04 22:03
@netspooky@haunted.computer my "no USB ports here" sticker makes people ask questions already answered by my sticker
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@odr_k4tana@infosec.exchange 2023-08-04 22:20
@netspooky@haunted.computer printer companies are true evil.
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@unicodesnowman@asciisnowman.yachts 2023-08-04 22:30
@netspooky@haunted.computer lol
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@y0nei@headpat.exchange 2023-08-04 22:31
@netspooky@haunted.computer The last sentence is so real lmaoo
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@Elias@mementomori.social 2023-08-04 22:33
@netspooky@haunted.computer HP is an US company. Thus they are stupid and deceptive by definition. Next, please!
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@helplessduck@mastodon.online 2023-08-04 22:40
@netspooky@haunted.computer LOL @ teenage extortion group.
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@TelepathicalK@fosstodon.org 2023-08-04 22:43
@netspooky@haunted.computer I'm kind of impressed by the absolute disdain HP has for their customers. "Put a sticker there, the morons won't know the difference."
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@austinphilp@techhub.social 2023-08-04 23:20
@netspooky@haunted.computer Man, I get not wanting to mess with the boards inside the printer, but they really couldn't be bothered to change the case so that it doesn't expose the port anymore? lol
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@tom@bonequest.net 2023-08-04 23:29
@netspooky@haunted.computer I thought you might be wrong, and so I downloaded the manual for your printer. It says multiple times that you CAN use USB, and how to use USB, and how to go from USB to wireless or vice versa. But they do want you to do wireless first before doing USB, if possible. The sticker is a nudge, not trying to pretend USB isn't an option at all. I feel @briankrebs@infosec.exchange did not look into this before boosting your toot.
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@astraluma@tech.lgbt 2023-08-05 00:17
@netspooky@haunted.computer it's really amazing they'll put a "no USB" sticker right next to the USB port
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@bls@mas.to 2023-08-05 00:23
@netspooky@haunted.computer @moira@mastodon.murkworks.net so true. Used to love HP printers, now avoid them like the plague.
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@dswidow@newsie.social 2023-08-05 00:28
@netspooky@haunted.computer I can't believe it. I went through the exact same thing. Luckily, the techie guy working at Walmart assured me that the usb port would work. I was confused, but tried it and it worked.
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@syn@ohai.social 2023-08-05 00:32
@netspooky@haunted.computer Hahahaha they didn't even remove the injection molded usb logo
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@wale@merveilles.town 2023-08-05 00:47
@netspooky@haunted.computer This is why I love my printer, it may suck in terms of getting actual ink replacements, but it even works with Linux, Wi-Fi or not. (Elk please support proper Markdown)
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@simonoid@aus.social 2023-08-05 01:41
@netspooky@haunted.computer I'm shocked they shipped with the physical usb connector. Must have been a legal requirement that says nothing about f.u.d stickers
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@minmacdougal@meow.social 2023-08-05 01:55
@netspooky@haunted.computer There are literally better printers out on the market as it is. I've long since kicked HP to the curb and I'll be doing the same to their laptops when this one croaks!
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@n0m0time@masto.ai 2023-08-05 01:57
@netspooky@haunted.computer It's been a while since I swore off HP products and their abysmal aneurism inducing customer service - I will never buy another HP product as long as I live and will shout it from the mountaintops every chance I get.
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@preston_scheuneman@fosstodon.org 2023-08-05 02:07
@netspooky@haunted.computer years ago when I decided to buy a home multifunction color laser printer, I got an Okidata mc362w and it's been great. No shenanigans and no issues. It's a little bigger and probably more than what you'd typically get for home, but I've saved a lot over the years in time and money. I found a good source for non-OEM toner too. I used to support HP printers in an enterprise environment a long time ago. Sad to see they've become shady.
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@SimonCHulse@mastodon.nz 2023-08-05 02:35
@netspooky@haunted.computer yup. Used to work for a shop that sold these. Can confirm this is totally true. Also here’s a great comic strip while on the topic of terrible printer manufacturers:
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@aaron@chirp.zadzmo.org 2023-08-05 02:50
@netspooky@haunted.computer I ran into a similar thing with an early model LCD monitor, around 2006 or so. I bought the VGA only option as it was $100 cheaper. When I opened the box, I discovered the single difference between VGA only and VGA+DVI... is that VGA only didn't ship with a DVI cable.