Post #2493881
2026-02-07 21:43 UTC
Replies (22)
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@darkuncle@infosec.exchange 2026-02-07 21:45
@mitchellh@hachyderm.io reminds me of early PGP Web of Trust days and keysigning parties
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@MalcolmMielle@fediscience.org 2026-02-07 21:53
@mitchellh@hachyderm.io sounds like the system for arxiv
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@rogueren@vt.social 2026-02-07 21:56
@mitchellh@hachyderm.io my only concern is new and upcoming devs won't have anyone to vouch for them, thus cutting them out of open source entirely. Think there's a way to fix that?
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@johnefrancis@cosocial.ca 2026-02-07 22:05
@mitchellh@hachyderm.io I like the explicit denouncement. Unclean! Unclean! Heretic! 👉
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@tobyjaffey@mastodon.me.uk 2026-02-07 22:12
@mitchellh@hachyderm.io Reminds me of Advogato from c.1999, kind-of peer reviewed slashdot built on an attack-resistant trust metric. It built a huge trust network of people involved with opensource/freesoftware but ultimately failed, I think, because it only proved identity, rather than reputation. I like the generality you're suggesting about how to apply "trust" to a project.
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@sobek@social.linux.pizza 2026-02-07 22:19
@mitchellh@hachyderm.io Mario is actually on mastodon. @badlogic@mastodon.gamedev.place
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@FritzAdalis@infosec.exchange 2026-02-07 23:19
@mitchellh@hachyderm.io @kevin@mastodon.km6g.us Does this do anything to help with the next/current Jia Tan (xz)?
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@Sassinake@mastodon.social 2026-02-08 01:30
@mitchellh@hachyderm.io make sure to re-vet contributors to defend against liars and people later corrupted by 'interests'. Open source is still People.
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@qasimstatic@hachyderm.io 2026-02-08 02:16
@mitchellh@hachyderm.io sending that to all my servers rn.
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@beemdvp@techhub.social 2026-02-08 02:21
@mitchellh@hachyderm.io great idea, thanks for creating!
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@bpacia@androiddev.social 2026-02-08 02:29
@mitchellh@hachyderm.io thanks for building this! i like the idea B) pessimist take: assuming this gains momentum (which i hope it does), i wonder how long it'll take until some more radical folks (on both sides of the political spectrum) will en masse block people on "the other side" from contributing to their projects. and then we'll have many blocklists of open-source developers. kind of like we have blocklists in adblock.
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@csolisr@hub.azkware.net 2026-02-08 03:01
As a new contributor to most projects, what is the best way of gaining people's trust if I'm not allowed to submit code anywhere to do so?
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@Madagascar_Sky@mastodon.social 2026-02-08 04:52
@mitchellh@hachyderm.io Hey @cstross@wandering.shop, look, accelerando's trust network is here!
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@LangerJan@chaos.social 2026-02-08 06:33
@mitchellh@hachyderm.io That’s social scoring with extra steps.
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@wiersdorf@fosstodon.org 2026-02-08 07:05
@mitchellh@hachyderm.io I don't know if you've read Neal Stephenson's Anathem—this reminds me of the reputation system the ITA (technologists in the society) have to access certain parts of their version of the internet.
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@mraiur@mamutut.space 2026-02-08 09:49
@mitchellh@hachyderm.io well you can contact a trusted contributor and some tests can be done. I really like it, otherwise #slopocalipse will kill everything interesting.
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@nils_ballmann@infosec.exchange 2026-02-08 09:51
@mitchellh@hachyderm.io @RichiH@chaos.social but then we can't call it Open Source anymore, because it's not open to everybody by default anymore. So, how about we call it Vouch Source instead? :blobcatthinksmart:
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@Sean_Mac_Cu_Na_Mara@mastodon.ie 2026-02-08 12:29
@mitchellh@hachyderm.io thank you!
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@jhaas@a2mi.social 2026-02-08 14:51
@mitchellh@hachyderm.io I was waiting for some form of this to pop up. You're first on my radar. Things like this will eventually need to be something other than boolean. The clumsy n00b that is instantly denounced has no way to crawl out of that hole. "Karma" systems where one earns good credit for work also push these things to something other than boolean. This will always be able to be gamed, but it's at least a helpful speedbump. Thanks for the work.
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@uriel@keinpfusch.net 2026-02-08 17:01
@mitchellh@hachyderm.io sure. a new sheriff. dictators, benevolent or not, weren't sufficient. Now we have black shirts, too, to decide if you are vouched enough. OSS is dead, man. And the reason is dead, is that it repels corporation logic, to embrace totalitarism logic.
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@Photo55@mastodon.social 2026-02-09 11:39
@mitchellh@hachyderm.io In retrospect the PGP web of trust would now be useful, had we adopted it more enthusiastically back then. Perhaps this will be another node in the formation of such a web.
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@tris@chaos.social 2026-02-09 15:45
@mitchellh@hachyderm.io Reminded of key signing party in @archlinux@fosstodon.org and @debian ;P