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Post #1880023

2024-12-03 08:29 UTC

A11y is about the least accessible way of writing 'accessibility' possible. A-11-letters-Y is not enough information to go on unless you've already been primed to understand it. It's aesthetically (a11y) ugly, astonishingly (a11y) pretentious, and has just this awful whiff of artificiality (a11y) about it. In an age where machines will automatically (a11y) type entire words out for you using the shorthand is aggravatingly (a11y) lazy and unintuitive. Quite frankly it strains acceptability (a11y). I don't think that this numeronym is being used appropriately (a11y).

Replies (22)

  • @TheTenuousOrder@meow.social 2024-12-03 08:45

    @Vordus@chitter.xyz but i'm such a 13

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  • @gabu@chitter.xyz 2024-12-03 11:49

    @Vordus@chitter.xyz THANK YOU

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  • @mondanzo@wolfdo.gg 2024-12-03 11:55

    @Vordus@chitter.xyz Don't know how many years it took me to learn that a11y is supposed to mean accessibility...

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  • @araly@gamedev.lgbt 2024-12-03 12:31

    @Vordus@chitter.xyz ah i really don't like when people use a lot of shorthand, i struggle with it a lot. like "ngl" or "imo" regularly my partner will say something like "oh and the FDT talked with the ZBS to figure out the RGX on the PAQ" and he looks at me like i'm supposed to know what any of those mean it's fine if you want to use shorthand to go faster, but at least define each one you use with everyone new you talk to, don't assume everyone already knows

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  • @starsider@valenciapa.ws 2024-12-03 12:51

    @Vordus@chitter.xyz I think it's fine for certain uses like software package names and other technical things (particularly back when name length was at a premium), but *never* for user facing text. I'm more familiar with "i18n" for "internationalization" and fortunately I've never seen it outside linux package names.

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  • @Nine@chitter.xyz 2024-12-03 12:58

    @Vordus@chitter.xyz real talk i thought it was a weird way of writing "Ally" so learning it is "meant to mean" Accessability is just... whoever thought this up needs a fucking slap honestly.

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  • @tryst@meow.social 2024-12-03 13:35

    @Vordus@chitter.xyz Screen readers have no idea what to make of it either, so it seems counterintuitive to me

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  • @LiquidParasyte@pawb.fun 2024-12-03 13:43

    @Vordus@chitter.xyz

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  • @Vordus@chitter.xyz i will never not read it as ally in leetspeak

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  • @kaye@cathode.church 2024-12-03 14:59

    @Vordus@chitter.xyz I can parse it if I stop and think, but at first glance it's always "ally but written in leetspeak"

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  • @StarkRG@myside-yourside.net 2024-12-03 15:05

    @Vordus@chitter.xyz It took me seeing it used several times by different people before I realised it wasn't being used ironically.

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  • @lulu@hachyderm.io 2024-12-03 15:06

    @Vordus@chitter.xyz I can maybe accept it as a shorthand for software libraries that handle accessibility. Anywhere else, it's an insult.

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  • @qwertystop@wandering.shop 2024-12-03 17:30

    @Vordus@chitter.xyz on the other hand it gave me and my gf "h12s" (usually "huuuuuuuuuuugs" but occasionally "haberdasheries")

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  • @heathen_cat@furs.social 2024-12-03 20:24

    @Vordus@chitter.xyz It is cognitively inaccessible.

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  • @greycat@kitty.social 2024-12-03 21:50

    @Vordus@chitter.xyz that's what it stands for? fuck, I thought it was a twitterism for "ally."

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  • @retrosponge@kind.social 2024-12-03 23:31

    @Vordus@chitter.xyz I still remember the first time I saw that I had to ask somebody what it meant, which rather renders the whole thing bloody redundant.

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  • @twynn@mas.to 2024-12-03 23:44

    @matt@toot.cafe Re your last boost from @Vordus@chitter.xyz, while I get it, I also think this post does a decent job for its defense: https://ericwbailey.website/published/a11y-is-web-accessibility/

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  • @sys128@kitty.social 2024-12-04 01:07

    @Vordus@chitter.xyz aaaaaayyyyyyy

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  • @nicemicro@fosstodon.org 2024-12-04 01:11

    @Vordus@chitter.xyz honest question: what does the 11 in the word stand for? how on earth am I supposed to read the numbers inside a word? It always reminds me of Se7en which I always read se-seven-en.

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  • @guyjantic@infosec.exchange 2024-12-04 01:12

    @Vordus@chitter.xyz holy shit. I've seen that half a dozen times this year and thought it was a funky way of spelling "ally." Thanks for at least letting me know what those people were trying to say.

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  • @enthusiast101@fosstodon.org 2024-12-04 01:39

    @Vordus@chitter.xyz I guess I just learned what A11Y means, though I find it a bit stupid that the acronym exists. Just for funsies, I put the acronym to a text to speech thingy and yeah, that didn't help. It pronounced it " A - Eleven - Y" I get accessibility is a big word, but just putting a '11' in the middle of it is not a sane way to shorten it.

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  • @Vordus@chitter.xyz /me looks on, nods thoughtfully, steals "numeronym" for own lexicon.

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