Post #1778454
2024-01-10 06:26 UTC
Replies (22)
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@HeavenlyPossum@kolektiva.social 2024-01-10 09:00
@martenson@mastodon.world The state works for capital, not for us.
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@dosch@zirk.us 2024-01-10 09:04
@martenson@mastodon.world and it puts us pirates in an awkward position where we always hated copyright to begin with, but now seem to be... in favor of it...? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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@donty@mastodon.tetaneutral.net 2024-01-11 10:16
@martenson@mastodon.world Surely the same rules will apply to us if we want to build on top of their freely available AI systems IP.... Ahhh, wait.... I see...
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@wtfrank@mastodon.social 2024-01-12 20:45
@martenson@mastodon.world it may well be impossible to create genai without access to copyrighted material... Such entitlement to think they can use other people's work without payment let alone credit! They're treating the fact they used people's work as a trade secret
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@vcrocher@scicomm.xyz 2024-01-12 21:59
@martenson@mastodon.world Remembering Aron Swartz.
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@niclas@angrytoday.com 2024-01-13 09:14
@martenson@mastodon.world And under Freedom of Religion; https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn21334-kopimism-the-worlds-newest-religion-explained/
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@dustinrue@mastodon.chateaude.luxe 2024-01-14 16:11
@martenson@mastodon.world @vmstan@vmst.io boy am I ever getting a "you wouldn't download a car" vibe right now. Suddenly stealing is justified…
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@rosorrentino@techhub.social 2024-01-14 16:36
@martenson@mastodon.world
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@nobrainnopain@social.tchncs.de 2024-01-14 17:59
@martenson@mastodon.world as fefe said, q&d translated: If they’d burned billions of venture capital, scihub and pirate bay would be legal nowadays, as openAI is. source (German): http://blog.fefe.de/?ts=9b60b97e
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@drwho@hackers.town 2024-01-14 18:39
@martenson@mastodon.world That's the difference, right there.
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@exallium@androiddev.social 2024-01-14 19:14
@martenson@mastodon.world very curious now if I could get ChatGPT to regurgitate full copywrited texts with the right prompting...
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@etchedpixels@mastodon.social 2024-01-14 19:28
@martenson@mastodon.world It's not clear that there is any law stopping an AI consuming copyrighted work, and that is actually a really rather good thing, because it's the same fact that allows search engines, and allows things like AI based screen reading for the blind and dyslexic to function. A world where a blind person can't read a sign unless the application author has licensed that specific sign is not a good one. The issue is what it does with the content it read. Same with pirate bay
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@notanonymous26@fosstodon.org 2024-01-14 20:58
@martenson@mastodon.world Yep the laws don't apply to these corporations. But those three guys create a movement , a way of life , a way in which regular people can say fuck you to these corporations.
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@Kichae@catodon.social 2024-01-14 21:35
@martenson@mastodon.world Yes. Because there is no crime under capitalism more severe than failing to profit. If you build something profitable on the back of copyright infringement, you have something you can, ultimately, settle out of court for, should they be able to afford good enough lawyers. But if you're just giving it away... Well, the rent seekers can't ever get anything from that.
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@Nazani@universeodon.com 2024-01-15 00:27
@martenson@mastodon.world Absurd, look at all the materials on Archive.org, Gutenberg, etc. Only copywrited material they need is Strunk & White.
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@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz 2024-01-15 08:55
@martenson@mastodon.world > 10 years ago three dudes from Sweden were hunted by FBI, Interpol and their own government for challenging copyright laws As were the staff of MegaUpload. Before that, Napster, Grokster, and numerous other small internet companies were shut down by the copyright mafia and the US courts, for the crime of helping music fans find new music to enjoy. Copyright, as its currently structured, serves rentiers not creators, not audiences, and not the common good.
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@morten_skaaning@mastodon.gamedev.place 2024-01-15 21:03
@martenson@mastodon.world are the competitors of OpenAI allowed to use OpenAI answers in their training data?
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@doragasu@mastodon.sdf.org 2024-01-16 11:07
@martenson@mastodon.world Not to mention they also can generate text from scientific papers verbatim, while Aaron Swartz life was made impossible to the point he commited suicide... just for batch downloading scientific papers.
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@SehrLesbisch@chaos.social 2024-01-16 11:27
@martenson@mastodon.world it's impossible for me to become rich without robbing a bank, so I should be allowed to do it
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@cinnamon@mk.absturztau.be 2024-01-16 11:31
@martenson@mastodon.world ...until some enlightened mind decides to train an AI with Disney pictures. Then we'll have a gang of lawyers with enough power and motivation to win a case against an AI company and potentially making all the AI business model collapse.
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@philipbrewer@wandering.shop 2024-01-16 15:44
@martenson@mastodon.world Gee. To me that suggests that the copyrighted material is useful, and therefore should be paid for.
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@lilacperegrine@clockwork.monster 2024-01-17 18:51
@martenson@mastodon.world Could you train an AI on your favourite movie, and when confronted with piracy, point to OpenAI as a precedent?