@zzt good post, but I feel like you can’t call that a citation since there isn’t a link, title, or author. Here’s a link to Anthropic’s blog post where they restate this in a footnote.
https://red.anthropic.com/2026/mythos-preview/#ftnt_ref1
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@frameworkcomputer let us know when you’re done partnering with racists and we’ll be there.
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RE: https://chaos.social/@rhandos/116340136109468312
EDIT: I didn't realize Jellyfin already has a GenAI contribution policy, which I actually find relatively reasonable.
https://jellyfin.org/docs/general/contributing/llm-policies/
However, the repository still violates these guidelines because they've uploaded LLM meta files (the CLAUDE.md file) which I will file a new issue about. Thank you to @NitP for alerting me to this.
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@jellyfin I opened an issue asking them not to use GenAI for development due to concerns about code quality, security, and just supporting these awful companies that are actively harming the internet. They deleted it immediately, without comment. Please make some noise and tell them we won't stand for Jellyfin becoming slopware.
Repo for new client: https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin-desktop/issues/101
Jellyfin contact page: https://jellyfin.org/contact/
#opensource #foss #jellyfin
EDIT: I didn't realize Jellyfin already has a GenAI contribution policy, which I actually find relatively reasonable.
https://jellyfin.org/docs/general/contributing/llm-policies/
However, the repository still violates these guidelines because they've uploaded LLM meta files (the CLAUDE.md file) which I will file a new issue about. Thank you to @NitP for alerting me to this.
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@jellyfin I opened an issue asking them not to use GenAI for development due to concerns about code quality, security, and just supporting these awful companies that are actively harming the internet. They deleted it immediately, without comment. Please make some noise and tell them we won't stand for Jellyfin becoming slopware.
Repo for new client: https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin-desktop/issues/101
Jellyfin contact page: https://jellyfin.org/contact/
#opensource #foss #jellyfin
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@rhandos Just opened an issue asking them to stop using GenAI.
https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin-desktop/issues/101
https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin-desktop/issues/101
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@draken @2600 @ashleygjovik yeah, I've been following the whole thing for a while now. I'd be amazed as well. Honestly, I still believe in miracles, because Thermo Fisher actually sent me dimensional drawings for working on a piece of equipment when I asked them.
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@bob_zim @deliverator excellent points all around. Regarding rigor, something that absolutely needs to enter the public discussion sphere is confidence metrics for probabilistic software (i.e. any machine learning algorithm ever, especially computer vison). Any probabilistic algorithm being marketed without a probability disclosure is wildly irresponsible and should be publicly shamed. I’d go as far as saying probability disclosures ought to be legally mandated, as well as disclosure of the dataset used to produce that measurement.
While software doesn’t decay in the literal sense, it does decay metaphorically. Vulnerabilities are found and need to be patched. Dependencies become deprecated or unmaintained.We run out of seconds since 1 January 1970 countable by a signed 32 bit integer. The left pad incident was a wake-up call for dependency maintenance. I’m vaguely aware of some frameworks for assessing the risk added to your project by a dependency, but I’ve never heard of a dependency being excluded from a project because of its risk. In that sense, we’re still in the fuck around and find out stage of software development. I hope we can change that soon.
While software doesn’t decay in the literal sense, it does decay metaphorically. Vulnerabilities are found and need to be patched. Dependencies become deprecated or unmaintained.We run out of seconds since 1 January 1970 countable by a signed 32 bit integer. The left pad incident was a wake-up call for dependency maintenance. I’m vaguely aware of some frameworks for assessing the risk added to your project by a dependency, but I’ve never heard of a dependency being excluded from a project because of its risk. In that sense, we’re still in the fuck around and find out stage of software development. I hope we can change that soon.
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@bob_zim @deliverator true. I haven’t played around with any of those cool formally verifiable languages yet, so I wasn’t comfortable asserting that they’re practical for industry use.
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@bob_zim @deliverator Further, I would say that unless you’re building your software to reliability standards (not goals, standards that you test) then you’re a programmer, not an engineer.
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@noisytoot @alexia
The minio thing is shitty, but also not at all the same as what the OQL is suggesting. Also, the AGPL seems like it forbids selling license exceptions. See section 12:
"If conditions are imposed on you (whether by court order, agreement or otherwise) that contradict the conditions of this License, they do not excuse you from the conditions of this License. If you cannot convey a covered work so as to satisfy simultaneously your obligations under this License and any other pertinent obligations, then as a consequence you may not convey it at all. For example, if you agree to terms that obligate you to collect a royalty for further conveying from those to whom you convey the Program, the only way you could satisfy both those terms and this License would be to refrain entirely from conveying the Program."
(from https://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl-3.0.en.html)
The above section seems wholly incompatible with what I'm suggesting. The point isn't scaring off companies, I want my software to be used, but only to better the world. The point is that under the current state of capitalism, incorporating OSS into your supply chain should require compensating developers commensurate to the responsibility you're placing on them.
If you're seriously suggesting that you're not missing the point immediately after no-true-scotsmaning open source development, I suspect there's little productive discussion we can have. Despite the fact that we have pretty similar goals (UBI, propagation of free software), I'm getting the distinct impression that you don't understand the concept of coalition building, which you will need to go into politics. Please go volunteer at a soup kitchen before proselytizing further about a license that won't put food on my table or those of my struggling queer friends who work in tech.
The minio thing is shitty, but also not at all the same as what the OQL is suggesting. Also, the AGPL seems like it forbids selling license exceptions. See section 12:
"If conditions are imposed on you (whether by court order, agreement or otherwise) that contradict the conditions of this License, they do not excuse you from the conditions of this License. If you cannot convey a covered work so as to satisfy simultaneously your obligations under this License and any other pertinent obligations, then as a consequence you may not convey it at all. For example, if you agree to terms that obligate you to collect a royalty for further conveying from those to whom you convey the Program, the only way you could satisfy both those terms and this License would be to refrain entirely from conveying the Program."
(from https://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl-3.0.en.html)
The above section seems wholly incompatible with what I'm suggesting. The point isn't scaring off companies, I want my software to be used, but only to better the world. The point is that under the current state of capitalism, incorporating OSS into your supply chain should require compensating developers commensurate to the responsibility you're placing on them.
If you're seriously suggesting that you're not missing the point immediately after no-true-scotsmaning open source development, I suspect there's little productive discussion we can have. Despite the fact that we have pretty similar goals (UBI, propagation of free software), I'm getting the distinct impression that you don't understand the concept of coalition building, which you will need to go into politics. Please go volunteer at a soup kitchen before proselytizing further about a license that won't put food on my table or those of my struggling queer friends who work in tech.
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@noisytoot @alexia Yes, I'm suggesting selling exceptions. It seems like you're missing my entire previous point, which is that open source developers need to make a living under capitalism. Using the GPL would still allow massive for-profit companies to use the software without compensating developers at all. I think putting food on the table for open source developers is more important than use of completely free licenses.
About the section that says "No entity that commits such abuses or materially supports entities that do may use the Work for any reason," that section was actually not there when I made the original post. That section is in the new OQL v1.3, from two weeks ago, whereas v1.2 was current at the time of the original post. I will suggest a change to the language anyway.
Finally, I don't understand your argument about minio. Minio itself is licensed under AGPL, the very license you suggest would solve these problems. Its contributing page doesn't list any sort of contributor licensing agreement (which is what I assume you mean by CLA). I'm completely at a loss as to how the AGPL was supposed to prevent this, since in this case it clearly did not.
About the section that says "No entity that commits such abuses or materially supports entities that do may use the Work for any reason," that section was actually not there when I made the original post. That section is in the new OQL v1.3, from two weeks ago, whereas v1.2 was current at the time of the original post. I will suggest a change to the language anyway.
Finally, I don't understand your argument about minio. Minio itself is licensed under AGPL, the very license you suggest would solve these problems. Its contributing page doesn't list any sort of contributor licensing agreement (which is what I assume you mean by CLA). I'm completely at a loss as to how the AGPL was supposed to prevent this, since in this case it clearly did not.
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@noisytoot @alexia I really do appreciate your perspective on this, but I think the FSF's position on this comes from a rather privileged place that doesn't acknowledge the number of OSS devs struggling to make a living under capitalism. I think nonfree licenses, especially those that discourage commercial exploitation of OSS software without compensating the developers, are fine, and even necessary until we implement UBI or something similar to guarantee that open source developers can put food on the table for their OSS work, not by holding down another job at the same time.
I agree with the ideals of the FSF, but I don't think achieving them under the current state of capitalism is realistic. That's not to say I think they can't be achieved, but I think acting as if they are achievable now will not produce productive discussion.
I'll put in a PR to make some of the changes you suggested, and ask a lawyer I know to review the OQL.
I agree with the ideals of the FSF, but I don't think achieving them under the current state of capitalism is realistic. That's not to say I think they can't be achieved, but I think acting as if they are achievable now will not produce productive discussion.
I'll put in a PR to make some of the changes you suggested, and ask a lawyer I know to review the OQL.
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@alexia Thanks for showing me this, I might put it on my projects from now on. :) I really like the "fuck around and find out" license linked to as inspiration by the OQL.
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@alexia I saw some discussion somewhere else on fedi about how the MIT license allows people to walk all over OSS developers. I'm starting to think that people should use "MIT except if you're a commercial user you have to pay $10/mo" or something like that. Personally I like GPL licensing my stuff, but if you want something more permissive, that might work better.
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