2026-09-08 10:17 UTC
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@miramarmike@cloudisland.nz 2026-09-08 10:44
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io not very good though, hopefully it gets better. I did a search for my name as I have had a blog for over 20 years, didn't come up.
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@Devonkiwi@mastodonapp.uk 2026-09-08 10:23
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io Why won't they let us have nice things? "The search engine is currently under being hit so aggressively by bots it's interfering with the ability to serve regular search traffic. Emergency anti-scraping measures are enabled. Sorry about the inconvenience."
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@ewen@social.ewenbell.com 2026-09-08 11:04
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io Genuinely impressive challenge to put something like this together. Just the capacity to scale to demand alone is mind boggling. It's fascinating to see the web though this lens.
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@raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie 2026-09-08 11:06
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io "Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages." Really? I use Qwant.
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@RGBes@mastodon.social 2026-09-08 11:06
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io you can find the author here on mastodon: @marginalia@mastodon.social
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@jaypeach53@mastodon.social 2026-09-08 11:47
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io I just tried a search on Marginalia and DDG’s NoAI. The page is a WordPress blog. The Marginalia search found the page at index=20. DDG didn’t find the page after index=150. Looks like I’ll be searching using Marginalia before wasting my time on DDG’s “search”, which is Bing’s database.
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@Buford@twit.social 2026-09-08 12:06
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io Right then. I'll give it a go. 🤔
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@netzradler@hessen.social 2026-09-08 12:10
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io it's basically the first google-Page
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@gimulnautti@mastodon.green 2026-09-08 12:31
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io oh man, I could really get into using this one Kagi.com is apparently good too, but uses google’s search index so need subscription
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@failedLyndonLaRouchite@mas.to 2026-09-08 12:33
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io NO NO NO NO, jeesus fucking christ on a stick, I implore you in the Bowels of Christ, G is more then just a ranked index of URLs
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@wraptile@fosstodon.org 2026-09-08 12:41
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io yet another example of a good project being put to an early grave due to engineer inability to name things.
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@leadinglines@mastodon.green 2026-09-08 12:54
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io Is it good, is it bad? Is it vibe coded, is it a Honeypot? I don't know. What I do know is I searched for 'photography', then got stuck for 20 minutes on three pages from the top results that were all free of ads, dickovers and affiliate links, and they all smelled distinctly of human generated content. ☺️
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@DeliaChristina@sfba.social 2026-09-08 13:03
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io I like it!
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@petealexharris@mastodon.scot 2026-09-08 13:11
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io It certainly passes my litmus tests of searching: * solubility gallium * lava viscosity I don't know how generally useful this benchmark is for anyone else, but I was happy with the results.
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@64bithero@mstdn.games 2026-09-08 13:36
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io May I recommend Neosearch.org it’s a small project that uses Google And an LLM. But the results are well sorted , concise and as far as I can see 0 tracking or ads. https://neosearch.org
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@WorkWithKirk@mstdn.social 2026-09-08 13:47
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io Thanks for sharing this. It's cool and old school. Like the early web when you wanted to learn more about things and not just buy stuff.
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@scott@social.linux.pizza 2026-09-08 14:11
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io this is actually awesome, it just saved me like an hour of work on my first try
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@maddad@mastodon.world 2026-09-08 14:13
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io It looks great, going to start using it today 😀
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@Eedla@mastodon.social 2026-09-08 14:27
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io I am going to spend the rest of the evening looking at all the random things on the Explore Websites tab.
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@DeltaLima@social.la10cy.net 2026-09-08 14:41
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io Interesting! By reading that, I remember that #YaCy is still around, haven't had a look to this projects for over a decade, but I guess they made some progress, too :)
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@inawhilecrocodile@mastodon.social 2026-09-08 14:50
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io Thanks for sharing. 🙏
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@VogueLaGalere@mastodon.online 2026-09-08 14:52
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io Something other than Google -- that sounds wonderful. But technical achievement aside, what makes Google succeed is money. From other comments it appears you received some funding from a government agency? What is going to be the source of funding to keep the lights on for this project? Seems to me the practical consideration of who's paying for it needs to be given consideration and mention.
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@kasperd@westergaard.social 2026-09-08 14:57
I definitely like that somebody has managed to get as far as this. Until I saw this I was worried that we might have gotten to the point where the barrier to entry was too high for any new search engines to get created. It would be concerning if we were forever stuck with only Microsoft, Google, and third party frontends for those two. I am concerned whether that search engine will survive with donations as the only source of income. If he gets more users the service might get more expensive to keep up. One thing that does put me off a little bit is that most of the URLs in the search results are censored and that every link away from the site goes through a redirector that obscures the URL. But I sure hope it will be successful, as we need alternatives to the big two.
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@NicelyManifest@mastodon.social 2026-09-08 15:03
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io Reminds me of when Google said that the left hand column of results would remain pristine. How profit crushes promises.
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@falcennial@mastodon.social 2026-09-08 15:16
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io THANK YOU XC FOR THIS EPIC POST, AND WOLFMAN FOR BOOSTING IT 💯🤌🤌🤌
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@keisatsu@infosec.exchange 2026-09-08 15:18
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io Looks nice! And while I couldn't find a AI/LLM-policy it looks #slopfree
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@renardboy@mastodon.social 2026-09-08 15:39
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io HOLY SHIT BOOST BOOST BOOST
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@Bredroll@mas.to 2026-09-08 15:50
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io this is very good!
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@Bredroll@mas.to 2026-09-08 15:54
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io at university i made my own search engine with crawlers too, but mine scraped google and yahoo to start with
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@allpurposemat@mastodon.gamedev.place 2026-09-08 15:56
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io oohh awesome! It doesn't find me sadly... but I might switch to it for usual queries.
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@Mr_Chons@mastodon.world 2026-09-08 17:02
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io Oh, boy. I like. I like.
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@joost_rekveld@assemblag.es 2026-09-08 17:11
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io I use it quite a bit !
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@AKK666@norden.social 2026-09-08 17:40
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io I love https://marginalia-search.com/ It still finds lots of fandom sites and blogs that are actually readable! Esp. in the niche topics that get buried elsewhere. :) Heh, it even found my ancient fanfics along with my most recent research paper. ❤️ #search #fanfic
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@knowprose@mastodon.social 2026-09-08 18:38
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io this is great! Thanks!
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@harish@hachyderm.io 2026-09-08 19:42
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io I love this so, so much. I searched for my own name and found writing of mine from 20 years ago and going down memory lane.
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@ezrine@piaille.fr 2026-09-08 20:49
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io i swear i cried.
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@tiggy@mastodonapp.uk 2026-09-08 20:50
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io With just my name, that is fairly common, I was the third entry, about a music award. Adding my profession didn't lead me to my research and publications but to a snarky piece that references one of my MTIC papers and misrepresents part of our analysis.
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@LunaCOLON3@blahaj.zone 2026-09-08 21:31
@eliasulrich@hachyderm.io oh wow, this is actually really really good. i was expecting shitty results but the results are mostly great. the only thing about it i think is weird is that prioritizing text heavy pages means looking up the name of a website will often show a text heavy page from the website before the home page.