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Post #98122

2025-12-25 02:46 UTC

A year ago I installed solar panels+batteries, and now have a year of electric bills to compare. 2024: $4,133.13 2025: $655.62! The entire year was less than the previous year's July bill. Also got an EV last year so that amount ALSO includes my "gas" costs from charging at home. (~$1500/year with my prev gas car.) Hard to think of a pair of purchases I've been happier with!

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  • @tojiro@mastodon.social 2025-12-25 02:46

    Now the Caveats: - Obviously the initial purchase costs of the solar+EV outweighs the savings in the first year. - I live in California, we get more sun than average. - My work offers free EV charging, which accounts for maybe 1/3 of my charging. - I'm not factoring in utility price hikes.

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  • @Cdespinosa@mastodon.social 2025-12-25 06:50

    @tojiro reduce global warming, defeat oil companies, and save money with this one weird trick

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  • @janeishly@beige.party 2025-12-25 08:01

    @tojiro That's very satisfying. What kind of area of panels do you have?

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  • @iwein@mas.to 2025-12-25 08:17

    @tojiro well done. Also: either electricity is wildly expensive, or your house used almost 20x more electricity than mine. I'm to thinking I need that ev asap to beat your new high score 😁

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  • @yacc143@mastodon.social 2025-12-25 09:10

    @tojiro You are ruining #gop 's billionaire funders. You communist terrorist.

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  • @tojiro That's fantastic. We had a similar experience here when we installed panels. Because of an arrangement where we sell excess to the grid in summer and rebuy in winter, we managed to bring the net bill all the way down to £30 for the whole year! Best investment ever.

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  • @jackyan@mastodon.social 2025-12-25 09:11

    @tojiro That is awesome, congratulations! Gosh, we pay $6,000 a year—this country is such a rip-off.

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  • @eobeara@mastodon.ie 2025-12-25 09:40

    @tojiro Great news! I have ours about 14 months and am really happy with it. I'm looking into getting a second battery, but waiting on prices.

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  • @tojiro "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_market_economy" So I think you spend in that expensive July a howl lot to AC. Have you ever pondered about house insulation?

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  • @TimWardCam@c.im 2025-12-25 14:24

    @tojiro My electricity bill for the last year was £-11. No EV though.

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  • @8r3n7@mstdn.ca 2025-12-25 14:51

    @tojiro I applaud your forward thinking. But you might want to include the costs of the investment, so people can understand how long it takes to pay off.

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  • @tojiro That's awesome! There is no good excuse why all new builds do not have solar&batteries regulated into them. There's no good reason why all vehicles are not transitioning to EV. #ClimateChangeIsPolicy

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  • @Firlefanz@writing.exchange 2025-12-25 18:08

    @tojiro Congrats for using unmetered fusion power from the sky! 🙂 (Seriously, that's awesome. Very happy for you. This is the future.)

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  • @OGjester@stranger.social 2025-12-25 18:23

    @tojiro Congratulations! We did about the same thing in 2020; grid-tied, panels and battery. Bought an EV in 2023. With the EV, we end up using up our summer credits with about two months remaining in the year, so the power company never gets a surplus from us. With all the data center lunacy jacking up everyone’s power bills, our payback window gets drastically shorter every year. Best investment we ever made.

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  • @nikatjef@mastodon.acm.org 2025-12-27 03:07

    @tojiro A couple years ago, I replaced a Toyota Prius and a Ford Exploder with two EVs. My electric bill went up roughly $70 per month. My Prius, I drove a carpool roughly 50ish miles a day, cost about $25 a week and the Exploder cost roughly $50 per week. My EVs left the house with a full charge every morning and saved me over $200 a month for gas.

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  • @jerome@strings.io 2025-12-27 04:21

    @tojiro what equipment did you get? Sounds interesting!

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  • @in_sympathy@mastodon.social 2025-12-27 14:07

    @tojiro don’t mean to be the one who ruins the party, so please don’t get me wrong, but I’m genuinely interested in the following as I’m thinking of purchasing similar setup at some point: 1. How long will it take to get a full ROI on panels+batteries+EV? 2. And will your panels and batteries actually remain intact/relevant/usable by then? 3. If not or not sure - how much would it cost to recycle and replace this setup and how much money/time to get full ROI that adds to the equation?

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  • @mdione@en.osm.town 2025-12-27 17:41

    @tojiro agreed with all that, but now tell us how much the investment was. Going green is not only a logical step to also save money, it's also a big investment that not everybody can do.

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  • @nixfreak@masto.hackers.town 2025-12-28 19:28

    @tojiro would you mine telling us how much sun you actually received for the year? Do you have seasons? I’m generally interested in solar panels and EV in the coming future. Thanks in advanced.

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  • @nixfreak@masto.hackers.town 2025-12-28 19:28

    @tojiro would you mine telling us how much sun you actually received for the year? Do you have seasons? I’m generally interested in solar panels and EV in the coming future. Thanks in advanced.

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  • @proscience@toot.community 2025-12-28 19:36

    @tojiro 👏 👍 Have to admit though that it's disappointing yet unsurprising how few of those who responded considered mitigating the climate crisis as part of the undertaking.

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  • @sleepy62@social.vivaldi.net 2025-12-28 19:53

    @tojiro That is similar to our experience. Around 3 years ago we invested in solar for the house and traded in the oil burner for an EV. I did this mainly to get the fossil fuel industry out of our life and to stop feeling so helpless about the climate crisis. However the financial benefits were immediately obvious. Before the solar & EV our electricity cost was around $2900/year. After solar the cost to run the house, heating, EV charging and everything else our residual power bill in winter is around $900. So this now covers our gas for the car. Savings on gas is around $3000/year. Given that the EV was about $10K more than the gas equivalent it will take just over 3 years for payback. Less if we consider oil changes and other oil burner maintenance. Our payments for the solar installation are $280/month and will pay off in 8 years after which time it will be zero. The other thing that most people don't talk about is the increase in home equity. ie the house is now worth more than it was before. My estimate is that it's at least as much as the solar input costs. So this is gravy. Conclusion, the biggest hedge against inflation and cost of living is solar power and EVs. #solar #ev #renewables #climate

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  • @tojiro You don’t happen to be in the Seattle area with a recommendation for a company that installs this sort of thing, do you? I have some dear friends who have had trouble finding a reputable place.

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  • @byte@awawa.club 2025-12-28 20:22

    @tojiro but how much did all the batteries and panels cost? i wonder if they'll pay out in 4 or 5 years

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  • @ericgus@mastodon.social 2025-12-28 20:24

    @tojiro Just curious what was the initial cost of the panels .. just trying to figure out the break even point.. but this is fantastic as I have been thinking bout this as well.. are they they classic roof mounted kind or those that you put out in the yard and back-feed via an outlet style?

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