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Post #3276485

2026-05-26 21:03 UTC

And it's probably hard for westerners to see it because their strain of Christianity is much less ascetic (literally lads, stopping chocolate for lent or eating fish on a Friday is baby mode) and definitely doesnt have the same loading as it does in eastern orthodoxy, where it's *central*

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  • @stavvers@masto.ai 2026-05-26 21:10

    Anyway, a lot of the alt-right-reddit-atheists-turned-christian-nationalist strain of fash are basically closer to orthodox than they are to other christianities and it's probably helpful to remember this, it might be relevant later idk maybe the key to deactivating neonazis is to ask them for their opinion on the filioque controversy

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  • @stavvers@masto.ai not that I am at all disagreeing with the notion that the stress upon nofap and effectively masochism is not effectively distilled from a ready devotion to the most popular forms of American (and therefore widely disseminated) forms of protestantism and most mainstream Catholicism, but there are cultural examples of this right-wing terror regarding the body and a sort of loss of virility further back than what we'd call Russian interference. Suspicion regarding bodily pleasure as a vector of infection by the evil and cucked/soy world, especially the notion that it is basically evil and gay to ever give pleasure of any kind to another (but also that it's a sign of weakness to experience it at all) seems both prevalent and longstanding in right-wing kook circles that see the material body as merely the outer marker of and container for some set of value-laden properties (race, sex, often enough class) that are forever both innate/immutable and under threat

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  • @Colman@mastodon.ie 2026-05-26 21:56

    @stavvers@masto.ai huh? A lot of that stuff persisted in the western empire until my parents’ era. The fear of masturbation was pervasive until relatively recently. It’s not that foreign, it’s was there until Vatican II and still persists in the looney latin end.

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