Post #1576435 · Elektrine

@lain I loved how the author stated this "problem" with such certainty, then immediately after seemed to realize that readers don't actually want it solved, and tried to justify it by claiming there's no other feasible solution besides making advertisers happy. As far as I can tell, no matter how happy you make advertisers, they won't pay enough to keep publishers afloat, so who cares what they want?

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@K_REY_C@mastodon.social 2018-04-10 00:52

@lain failing --> virtue

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@arthurlutzim@mamot.fr 2018-04-11 20:44

@lain Feedburner (eventually bought by Google) did some tracking on RSS

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@Jason_Dodd@mastodon.social 2018-09-25 23:16

@lain Not tracking people is one of the best features to have, right?

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@chartier@toot.cafe 2019-01-10 22:07

@lain I tried searching a bit but can't find this. Could you share a link?

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@valvin@framapiaf.org 2019-01-11 06:03

@lain you can track but it is more difficult 😉

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@erroruser@example.com 2018-04-09 07:36

@@lain@pleroma.soykaf.com I've seen RSS feeds using tracking pixels before.

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@witti@social.netzkombinat.su 2018-04-09 07:37

@lain@pleroma.soykaf.com wtf i love rss now

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@decoy@niu.moe 2018-04-09 07:41

@lain@pleroma.soykaf.com "the problem with RSS is that it is designed in a good way"

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@Wolf480pl@niu.moe 2018-04-09 07:43

@lain@pleroma.soykaf.com Eh, I don't get why some people want analytics so badly. Before the internet, there was no analytics, and we lived, and the companies were making profit. So why do they need analytics now?

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@nietzsche@jelqing.men 2018-04-09 07:46

@lain@pleroma.soykaf.com this is how you kill the ads

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@Michcioperz@a.nom.pl 2018-04-09 07:52

@lain@pleroma.soykaf.com @Wolf480pl@niu.moe oh no you have to ask people for comments to know if they read

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@ayy@soc.h4x.group 2018-04-09 08:17

@lain@pleroma.soykaf.com It's funny because for all their data and optimizations I find that newssite ui's consistently lose to rss reader ui, and consistently lose to download pdf and scroll through it.

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@HalfTough@niu.moe 2018-04-09 08:32

@lain@pleroma.soykaf.com also whole black box argument is bullsoykaf. Podcasters/articles still get fair amount of data. Also it's data miners fault for being so shit, users started take actions against it. Most customers, even those who care for privacy, wouldn't mind giving some data about them if they had means to control what data it is.

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@enkiv2@a.weirder.earth 2018-04-09 12:34

@lain@pleroma.soykaf.com How much of Google's revenue is directly related to the fact that many people with websites don't know how to parse their own server logs & perform simple statistics on them?

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@dtluna@voluntaryism.club 2018-04-09 12:45

@lain@pleroma.soykaf.com Simple words surface the true meaning

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@realramnit@gnusocial.de 2018-04-09 14:25

@@lain@pleroma.soykaf.com @@astro@chaos.social luv it!

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@seanl@social.literati.org 2018-04-09 15:51

@lain@pleroma.soykaf.com The response of some publishers has been to only publish truncated feeds, but I just unsubscribe from these. I used to use gReader Pro which would automatically download the original article and cache it, thus making it look like I was reading EVERYTHING.

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@tobascodagama@cybre.space 2018-04-09 17:31

@lain@pleroma.soykaf.com Your caption for this paragraph is beautiful, it's like something from Webshit Weekly.

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@a_breakin_glass@cybre.space 2018-04-09 18:16

@lain@pleroma.soykaf.com the worst failing of RSS is that you can't spam mastodon timelines with it :^)

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@eleanor@mastodon.theubergroup.org 2018-04-09 21:04

@lain@pleroma.soykaf.com The true failing of that article is that it can't get its head out of its own head long enough to understand that maybe the new users aren't actually trying to consume COMMERCIAL media using the protocol, so it doesn't matter if it's not well-suited for marketing purposes. I use my RSS feed to collate blogs and encyclopedia-based article websites... both of which make their money from my ancillary purchases (i.e. when I go buy a book they recommend) instead of ads.

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@pennsylforniageek@mastodon.social 2018-04-10 15:10

@lain@pleroma.soykaf.com Is thst really a fail or a win for privacy? Given most companies think of security and privacy as only needed for compliance, this seems like a huge win to me.

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@meff@niu.moe 2018-04-10 17:37

@lain@pleroma.soykaf.com Well the author qualifies in the next paragraph that analytics pays the bills. I agree that they don't spend enough time defending that viewpoint, but as of now a huge portion of the internet runs on commoditizing analytics and data.

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@orangesec333@pawoo.net 2018-04-12 23:17

@lain@pleroma.soykaf.com actually that's good XD

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@chidgey@engineered.space 2018-04-21 07:55

@lain@pleroma.soykaf.com LOL “failing”

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