Post #1432767
2025-05-21 17:06 UTC
Replies (25)
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@dangoodin@infosec.exchange 2025-05-21 17:07
Signal writes: "We hope that the AI teams building systems like Recall will think through these implications more carefully in the future. Apps like Signal shouldn’t have to implement “one weird trick” in order to maintain the privacy and integrity of their services without proper developer tools. People who care about privacy shouldn’t be forced to sacrifice accessibility upon the altar of AI aspirations either."
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@agowa338@chaos.social 2025-05-21 17:12
@dangoodin@infosec.exchange I'm surprised that Recall is honoring the DRM Flags.
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@LonM@social.vivaldi.net 2025-05-21 17:22
@dangoodin@infosec.exchange I find it immensely annoying that DRM allows for screenshots to be blocked in the first place. I guess this is a silver lining.
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@nblr@chaos.social 2025-05-21 17:29
@dangoodin@infosec.exchange DRM being used to do good was not on my bingo card this year.
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@obucate@bildung.social 2025-05-21 18:04
@dangoodin@infosec.exchange I just gave it a try - and after an update, it grayed out. Sweet!
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@nivrig@mastodon.social 2025-05-21 18:19
@dangoodin@infosec.exchange @mrsbeanbag@ieji.de It’s fitting that a copyright protection tool is being used to defend against GenAI.
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@jab01701mid@mastodon.social 2025-05-21 18:21
@dangoodin@infosec.exchange Intesresting ! As a general rule - I consider all the things I do on my own computer to be copyrighted, unless I choose to publish it somehow. I'm preserving a "native" Windows 10 instance on a laptop, just in case, which I refuse to update to Win-spy 11. Soon, I'll only allow Windows 10 in a VM, if at all, from native linux platforms.
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@Kaliah@dragonscave.space 2025-05-21 18:24
@dangoodin@infosec.exchange Every app needs to do this
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@Ripp_@chitter.xyz 2025-05-21 18:32
@dangoodin@infosec.exchange so, they didn't provide a way for apps to say "this is private personal data, please don't AI this" But a way to go "this content is copyrighted, photograph it and meet our lawyers" I mean, I'm not surprised
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@skysailor@social.scribblers.club 2025-05-21 18:55
@dangoodin@infosec.exchange Wait MS is actually going through with this disaster of a product launch?
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@FishNamedDog@mastodon.social 2025-05-21 19:31
@dangoodin@infosec.exchange browsing explore and the first two things are, in order, signal and then you
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@SQLAllFather@techhub.social 2025-05-21 19:36
@dangoodin@infosec.exchange I noticed this change in behavior a few minutes before seeing this post. I went to take a screen shot of another window and my Signal window immediately went black. I could not be happier to see Signal take this step.
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@capriciousday@mastodon.social 2025-05-21 19:43
@dangoodin@infosec.exchange at some point it just becomes easier to put a message on the site that says "windows download not available as the OS undermines privacy too completely"
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@syntaxseed@phpc.social 2025-05-21 19:47
@dangoodin@infosec.exchange What happens to things like password manager apps & browser extensions? Those are getting screenshotted too. 😬 What a mess. #recall #security #privacy
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@captainepoch@stereophonic.space 2025-05-21 20:00
@dangoodin@infosec.exchange God bless me, I don't use Windows anymore.
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@josemachete79@mastodon.social 2025-05-21 20:07
@dangoodin@infosec.exchange I'm sooo glad I'm moving to linux. Thanks win11 for opening my eyes :)) much obliged and buh-bye!
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@v_d_richards@literatur.social 2025-05-21 20:51
@dangoodin@infosec.exchange Reading this i want to thank Windows again for kicking my butt to conquer my fears and switching to Linux. A step that marked a start in my journey of freeing myseklf from the big tech companies in little steps and be more bold trying out new and open source stuff. Thank you, Windows 11. It would not have been possible without you and my disgust for you shitting on privacy (even more) and rendering perfectly fine working hardware useless. You forced me to evolve. 👍
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@bob@beamship.mpaq.org 2025-05-21 20:54
@dangoodin@infosec.exchange Good thing no one on the MPAQ network uses MicroShit OR Signal (we have our own #XMPP server that even as admin, I can't see encrypted messages) AND its decentralized!!!
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@oxyte@mstdn.social 2025-05-21 21:19
@dangoodin@infosec.exchange If you explained any of this to someone using Windows XP back in the day they'd have an aneurysm
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@dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social 2025-05-22 00:31
@dangoodin@infosec.exchange Worth keeping in mind: Anything you create and post is copyrighted by you. So their idea makes perfect sense!
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@tasinone@mastodon.social 2025-05-22 00:36
@dangoodin@infosec.exchange There is no privacy on windows anymore. What is holding back people fron using Linux instead!! I understand the fact about gaming. But what about other users! You have FreeOffice that is very close to Office360. And now you have tools like Canva that works on web, so why still windows!! :blobugh: :blobugh: :blobugh:
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@evilcookies98@mastodon.stickbear.me 2025-05-22 01:00
@dangoodin@infosec.exchange alternatively, Microsoft could just not take screenshots of our screens and new bonus. That’s creepy.
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@vjprema@fosstodon.org 2025-05-22 03:51
@dangoodin@infosec.exchange This is basically DRM but protecting the individual users content from being copied by the big company, rather than the other way around. Better solution is to not use Windows or Recall, if possible.
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@praetor@mstdn.social 2025-05-22 04:22
@dangoodin@infosec.exchange #NixOS are you spying on me? *Silence* exactly because bitch don't talk back to daddy.
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@sbb@c.im 2025-05-22 04:53
@dangoodin@infosec.exchange Every other desktop messaging app for #Windows would do well to add this, as #Signal has. And if they don't, they compromise the privacy of all those people who took pains to *not* use Windows (who use said messaging apps, and are contacts with these Windows users). Every alternative operating system - #Linux, #MacOS, #iPadOS, #iOS, etc - where you can run these non-Recall-protected messaging apps... they all get dragged into the privacy quagmire which Windows #Recall creates. Another idea is for these Messaging apps to discontinue Windows support, thereby cutting off the infected, gangrenous limb, with respect to privacy. For example, #Gajim, the #XMPP client for linux, was recently stating they would release a Windows client for 2.2.0. How about just don't, and call it a day, citing Recall being too "radioactive" to privacy to get anywhere near? I'm curious: Can web browser tabs make a DRM-insisting Recall-blockage, like Signal does? I use WhatsApp Web. How can WhatsApp Web - in a browser tab - do what Signal does here?