Post #139668
2026-01-17 14:54 UTC
Replies (40)
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@Deestan@lemmy.world 2026-01-17 15:05
Instead of waiting a few more years for Linux to reach the level of ease-of-use needed to overtake Windows, MS is being sporty by moving the goal closer.
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@Krompus@lemmy.world 2026-01-17 17:12
I just want to know why my Windows 10 laptop is waking up by itself in the middle of the night to apply updates it isn't supposed to have? What the fuck?!
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@iconic_admin@lemmy.world 2026-01-17 18:50
Be hard for it to stay on with no power cord/battery…
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@Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2026-01-17 18:57
the key is, from microsoft's perspective, you don't own your computer
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@VisionScout@lemmy.wtf 2026-01-17 21:00
microslop patch
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@merdaverse@lemmy.zip 2026-01-18 01:30
I'm sure the patch was something super important like shoving more Microslop Copilot in your face, making Copilot OS even slower, and using Copilot to spy on you better
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@artyom@piefed.social 2026-01-17 15:10
LOL this response triggers me on MacOS when I tell it to install "unknown" software or turn off Bluetooth. "WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN YOU CANT DO THAT, I AM YOUR OWNER AND IM TELLING YOU TO DO IT SO JUST FUCKING DO IT"
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@anon_8675309@lemmy.world 2026-01-17 23:39
Yank the cord
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@1984@lemmy.today 2026-01-18 07:53
Copilot created this patch with pride.
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@DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 2026-01-18 17:25
Everyday I am happier I’ve moved to Linux Mint on my personal computer and have macOS at work.
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@FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 2026-01-18 09:59
Wtf kind of insanity is this? Run out of battery then asshole.
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@goatinspace@feddit.org 2026-01-17 19:27
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@FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 2026-01-17 15:48
Do people not just hold down the power button anymore?
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@lechekaflan@lemmy.world 2026-01-18 17:36
Install Linux Problem Solved.
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@TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2026-01-17 20:04
That explains about my work laptop. I swear that I clicked shutdown before I went on two week Christmas holidays!
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@Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2026-01-18 21:34
Unplug the shit
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@DickFiasco@sh.itjust.works 2026-01-17 16:28
This is why I outfit all my computers with a Matrix-esque EMP bomb connected to a dead man's switch. If I get the slightest hint of insubordination, I'll take them all down. I fucking swear it.
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@rdri@lemmy.world 2026-01-19 02:15
Can confirm. Was stuck at "You're 0% there" screen for like 20 minutes. Then it "unfrozen" itself and rebooted just fine. But yeah I wish I had the time to move to Linux soon.
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@JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 2026-01-19 00:13
I hate myself for enjoying Battlefield 6 enough at the moment to still be shackled to Windows. It's almost like have BF4 back again. Please flame
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@biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works 2026-01-17 16:34
Lmao my 5 yo asus vivobook has never encountered secure launch but it still refuses to shut down sometimes, probably since windows 11 makes it so the ram is at least 70% full at idle lol
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@webp@mander.xyz 2026-01-17 16:11
🔨
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@kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-01-17 18:03
> After installing the January 13, 2026, Windows security update (KB5073455) for Windows 11, version 23H2, some PCs with Secure Launch are unable to shut down or enter hibernation. Instead, the device restarts. It is able to restart
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@Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 2026-01-17 18:52
Hey, don't blame me.
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@REDACTED@infosec.pub 2026-01-19 17:18
Random, but mine started randomly turning itself back on. This is honestly bizzare and dangerous. Why the fuck does my PC suddenly turns itself on while I'm sleeping? Using event viewer and commands to see what triggered it returns nothingness, as if nothing triggered it
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@suicidaleggroll@lemmy.world 2026-01-17 16:01
Exactly. A lot of people seem to think that different = worse, or that not supporting the same software means it supports less software. I couldn't move to Windows right now because there is a ton of stuff I use Linux for that Windows has no alternative, or the alternatives are terrible. It works both ways.
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@madcaesar@lemmy.world 2026-01-17 16:50
This is simply not true. I don't understand what lying about this does for anyone. As a recent Linux convert, pretty much every hardware has full windows support while Linux you'll have to hunt for shit. Basic stuff like Nvidia graphics cards or even Logitech peripherals will not "just work" on Linux. Again, I love Linux and for me the pain was worth it, and most of the issues aren't really Linux's fault, it's the manufacturers who are assholes, but your average windows user had no idea about who's responsible when their mouse won't work and they can't install Logitech software.
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@Godort@lemmy.ca 2026-01-17 17:04
I get what you're saying, but it's not really true. If the only program you run is a web browser, then you're probably right, but only because Linux expects you to know how to use your computer and install updates yourself. Linux has achieved a very stable OS that offers a very granular experience, which is great if you know what you're doing, but if you don't, it's pretty arcane. The ability to configure everything on your system exactly how you want it to run is a double edged sword. If you want anything beyond what is offered out of the box, you'll need to interact with the terminal at some point, which is a pretty steep learning curve for the average user.
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@Deestan@lemmy.world 2026-01-17 17:28
It is. And honestly, remembering the stuff I had to do to play the original Doom at a LAN party back in the day. - Buy a sound card (some PCs came with, mine didn't) - Install the sound card drivers correctly - Edit the computer's config.sys file to assure the operating system drivers were loaded in such an order as to allow enough of Bill Gates' 640 kb RAM available to load a game - Borrow (!) a network card from my dad's computer, and open up the PC to jam it in there - Install network drivers - Path the physical coaxial network cables through all PCs and terminate them correctly - Configure the game to know which direct memory address (bank 1) and hardware interrupt request id (5) it needed to talk to the sound card - Yes hello also find a smaller mouse driver and load it correctly because by now all the networking and audio stuff is making those 640kb tight We all did that back then! If someone was a "gamer" they were not afraid to do this because they either knew how or knew a friend who was happy to help. Compare that to what I do today that most gamers consider "mind-numbingly super nerd impossible bullshit lol linux sux", running GNU GUIX: - Find a channel for the nvidia drivers. Add it to my system config, 2 lines. - Find a channel for Steam. Add it to my system config, 2 lines. - Oh no I had to add 2 more lines for nvidia by following clear documentation. O hey everything just works. Proton kicks in automatically.
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@sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-01-17 23:47
Correct. If you can't figure a modern linux distro, that is specifically geared towards being n00b friendly (there are a good number) ... ... its time to retire from thinking you are tech savvy, its time to hang up that hat, time to humble yourself a bit, realize you overspecialized in the wrong direction.
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@scala@lemmy.ml 2026-01-17 22:47
Installation of the any Linux OS is also easier to install. And much quicker.
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@python@lemmy.world 2026-01-17 22:19
Sometimes different is even better! When I switched to Linux a few months back I didn't anticipate just how much I would like the Gnome desktop environment. Now I sometimes even try flicking down my mouse to switch tabs on my Win11 work pc and get a pang of disappointment when it doesn't work.
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@Fredselfish@lemmy.world 2026-01-17 20:42
Find me two programs and I will switch completely. One that allows me to burn my dvd/blu rays with no cap that can convert to MP4s. Second app I have is Audible and I can download the files. Then with TunFab convert those files into MP3s. Only reason I am still using Windows. Oh not to mention the app that allows me to pull Amazon Music files and convert them to MP3s.
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@Smoogs@lemmy.world 2026-01-17 16:33
Oh so you have met my aunt
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@Datz@szmer.info 2026-01-17 23:29
I never used Win11 but I started using Linux (Nobara OS, by friend's advice) in November, and not really. If you never used either, I'm sure the learning process is as easy, but switching isn't. I wanted onedrive on desktop to conveniently edit .tex files, which I can't do on browser. The most popular option worked at first (after figuring out the terminal), but has bugs with downloading every once in a while (And Nobara doesn't update it as consistently). The second didn't work at all. The third, I got to connect, but I couldn't get it to make a synced folder, on top of misleading description (the flatpack I found said it manages cloud, but it was the GUI for a package you needed to install via terminal anyway. And Nobara encourages to only use flatpacks, rightfully it seems) So I'm sticking with the buggy one and downloading the files from browser occasionally. For that matter, installing TeXStudio had a font related bug too, and the solution was between the lines of a post about a slightly different problem and final solution. The first installation (where I picked Fedora instead of Nobara at first) led to the laptop not booting, where my friend said "yeah that happens, I backup before I install something" (though he uses Arch), and I also accidentally installed Steam twice because the discover flatpack is a seperate one from the Nobara preinstall. Windows? Most things are an .exe you launch, or have instructions specifically for Windows (complete with typical directories) while Linux has to account for at least a dozen distros.
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@suicidaleggroll@lemmy.world 2026-01-19 19:48
> I wonder if the software you need for cars would run under Wine. While maybe it could work, that's not the kind of thing you want to mess around with, since if it misbehaves even a little bit it can brick your ECU and leave you with a multi-thousand dollar repair bill
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@suicidaleggroll@lemmy.world 2026-01-20 00:00
Or it works initially and then crashes (yes that does happen), and if it crashes mid-flash that's a problem.
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@Railcar8095@lemmy.world 2026-01-17 18:13
Last time I used Raapbian there was a GUI for updates, and I think it would show a notification periodically for updates. This is mostly a difference of not knowing really. I have a Mac at work and it seems incredibly hard to do easy things, but mostly because I'm not used to it nor I bother to learn.
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@kescusay@lemmy.world 2026-01-17 16:45
Which version of Linux did you install? It supports a lot of them, and most have updaters that are easily configured from the task bar, just like Windows.
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@frongt@lemmy.zip 2026-01-17 23:52
Their purpose is to be used as a base to build your own system, not something for someone to use as-is out of the box.
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@MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 2026-01-17 17:25
I'm not the person you're responding to, but if I have headphones or speakers or a mouse that aren't plug and play on Linux which is what I'm used to on windows, I think it's fair to say that my experience with Linux is less easy than with windows. The average user is not going to consider that a hardware issue, and it isn't a hardware issue. If it's a driver issue, I'd call that a software issue. Im glad to hear your grandma is not having issues with Linux, but as a Linux user I have to agree with the other commenter. A not insignificant amount of people will run up against some issues with Linux that the average user is likely not equipped to solve. I'm not saying that it means Linux is bad, but it really isn't helpful to act like that's a complete fabrication.