Post #1268214
2026-04-16 10:57 UTC
Replies (13)
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@GoblinQuester@dice.camp 2026-04-16 11:02
@Njord@zeroes.ca I know what you are out for here, but I feel it is a false dichotomy here, there isn't about "parents rights". It is if children have human rights at all. The "Parents Rights" statement is just a statement for "My children are objects that are mine to do whatever I like with". So it isn't about if something is "important" it is about human rights period.
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@MachineLordZero@mastodon.social 2026-04-16 11:23
@Njord@zeroes.ca I don't think I understand the subjects.
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@petealexharris@mastodon.scot 2026-04-16 13:35
@Njord@zeroes.ca It's not symmetrical, as I see it. Children's rights are human rights for humans who happen to be children. Parent's rights aren't human rights for parents, they are specific different rights *as a parent*. As such they can't be as fundamental and inherent as the human rights of children, since you can always choose not to be a parent, but you can't choose not to be a child.
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@echedellelr@masfloss.net 2026-04-16 13:49
@Njord@zeroes.ca europe is not a nation
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@luxliquida@critter.cafe 2026-04-16 14:17
@Njord@zeroes.ca I want to believe that a lot of people sympathetic to "parents' rights" are (or want to be) parents who think they are in the best position to protect their children... But those of us who favor "children's rights" remember being children in authoritarian households, schools, and churches, and we know the kind of abuse that is inevitable if children don't have a loud voice in their autonomy
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@LunaDragofelis@void.lgbt 2026-04-16 14:25
@Njord@zeroes.ca German here. Definitely children's rights. And especially teens should have more of the kind of right where they get to make decisions over their own lives, within safe reason. For example whether to do a gender transition, or what websites they visit, or how to spend their own money.
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@silk_flame@mastodon.gamedev.place 2026-04-16 15:12
@Njord@zeroes.ca ideally parents would have their children's well-being and human rights in mind, but...
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@pdcawley@mendeddrum.org 2026-04-16 16:17
@Njord@zeroes.ca @eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place parents don’t have rights (from being parents, that is) they have fucking resonsibilities to whoever they brought into the world without asking their permission.
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@oblomov@sociale.network 2026-04-16 17:20
@Njord@zeroes.ca so this is apparently now a poll about the regions Fediverse users are in 8-D
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@apophis@yourwalls.today 2026-04-16 17:29
@Njord@zeroes.ca canadian, "parents don't have 'parental rights' only guardianship* obligations" was one of the first things they drilled into us when i was learning family law *they still called it "custody" in the statute back then but really trying to move away from what "custody" has come to mean in the popular mindset was one of the things motivating the change
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@yon@sakurajima.moe 2026-04-16 19:25
@Njord@zeroes.ca Parents shouldn’t have rights when it comes to anyone but *their* children. I’m an adult, they shouldn’t have any rights over me at all. All this is just Stasi (anyone who doesn’t know what that means, please do look it up right now) for the next century. Has zero to do with children. (Also children is seen as property in the U.S., it’s terrifying when compared to modern countries elsewhere.)
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@spherulitic@tech.lgbt 2026-04-16 23:06
@Njord@zeroes.ca "parents rights" is always a dog whistle for turning a blind eye to abuse. Parents who aren't abusive don't need to whine about "rights"
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@alvin@curiously.legit.industries 2026-04-23 11:15
@Njord@zeroes.ca