OS level age verification is the new Clipper chip. Surveillance states want to surveil. Whatever is being protected isn’t worth the combined civil rights loss.
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@bd808@mastodon.social
mastodon 4.8.0-alpha.3+pr-40283-7f6b1dcAngry cartoon unicorn. Geek-of-all-trades. Radical Left Scum. ACAB. Join a union. Opinions are my own or stolen from others.
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Replying to @luis_in_brief@social.coop
@luis_in_brief Or people could stop building generative AI tools. And stop calling things that are not generative AI “AI”.
#wmhack sticker drop
SRE and DevOps folks going to #wmhack: have your story ready to claim an exclusive “I broke Wikipedia… and then I fixed it” sticker if you don’t already have one. The important part is that you fixed things of course. Breaking things is too easy for a reward.
I just joined the #musicbrainz IRC channel on @liberachat@fosstodon.org to ask a question and noticed that mayhem is still in channel and opped-up. This made me happy. I hope my bouncer lingers after I'm gone. Big https://xkcd.com/1782/ energy.
Time to declare inbox bankruptcy everywhere until after #wmhack. I’ll be skimming things, but IRL conversations and events get all priority for this extra special and super short time when I get to see old friends and make some new ones too. Plus stickers. So. Many. Stickers.
Replying to @bd808@mastodon.social
I have a list of ~2000 pads that Addshore found for me in Phabricator. I started archiving them during the showcase at #wmhack yesterday, but that mostly just ended up getting the shared egress IP shadow banned at our CDN edge for 5 minutes. I’ve added some finer grained controls for rate limiting since, but I also decided not to try again until I’m back home on a stable connection.
Replying to @allanfriedman@infosec.exchange
@allanfriedman I’m sorry to hear you have long term side effects.
The only thing that has ever happened to me that was more painful than shingles was a kidney stone. +1 to getting the vaccination as soon as you are eligible, and even if you have had an active infection in the past.
Replying to @nyanbinary@infosec.exchange
@nyanbinary@infosec.exchange Copypasta? This assumes coding as the cargo cult descriptive target maybe.
Replying to @brooke@bikeshed.vibber.net
@brooke@bikeshed.vibber.net Yuvi did something similar ~10 years later and now we have mollyguard as a default install everywhere. Sometimes we learn that the stove is hot. :)
Replying to @seav@en.osm.town
@seav@en.osm.town https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:User_Wiki_Workers_United for all of your on-wiki promotion needs. Thanks for the support.
Replying to @wikipedia@wikis.world
@wikipedia@wikis.world I love shots of goats in Argan trees. I’ve used these in a number of different slide decks when talking about Wikimedia technical communities. The combination of #goatification and “wait, what’s going on here?” is fun.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Goats_in_argan_trees
Replying to @quarknova@wikis.world
@quarknova Now some of us hope for a petition against the use of generative AI in maintaining Wikimedia FOSS projects.
Replying to @baconandcoconut@freeradical.zone
@baconandcoconut@freeradical.zone I aspire to stand around near public works projects commenting on the technique of heavy equipment operators. It’s kind of like bird watching, but with more Statler and Waldorf.
Replying to @bd808@mastodon.social
This looks like a decent breakdown of what is probably needed. https://box464.com/posts/mastodon-preview-cards/
Replying to @brennen@federation.p1k3.com
@brennen I think I would give “salt vampire” its own category personally, but that may really be a consequence of that particular version of the makeup crew putting in more time being really wedged in my head.
Replying to @EricAlper@mastodon.social
@EricAlper Sicko has a song called Broken String with this great line in the chorus: “I go to so many shows, my ears are always ringin'
And if I go deaf, then I won't have to hear my lousy singin'”
Replying to @woozle@toot.cat
@woozle That syntax generally still works on DuckDuckGo and Google. I use site:example.com quite a bit too.
https://duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/syntax
https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/2466433?hl=en
Replying to @yoasif@mastodon.social
@yoasif I actually assume they will be ruled non-transformative and therefore subject to the license terms of the input corpus. I follow the argument that all non-human outputs are non-copyrightable. I have monkey selfie pinned in my feed. But I don’t follow the argument that re-encoding with lossy compression (tokenization and neural net training) is transformative fair use. I know there is some new case law that says this; I don’t think it will last long.
Replying to @yoasif@mastodon.social
@yoasif I am postulating that your thesis of LLM tokenization removing all copyright by being ruled non-human transformative work product will not stand. I’m not sure how that outcome has any direct impact on contributions to Wikimedia projects positively or negatively.
Replying to @bd808@mastodon.social
@yoasif Are you promoting the interesting take that Wikimedia Enterprise selling API access is somehow also relicensing the Wikimedia movement’s CC-BY SA content?
Replying to @bd808@mastodon.social
@yoasif This is why I am skeptical that tokenization will be held as transformative in the long term. The capital class will not stand for the wholesale elimination of intellectual property rights.
Replying to @rrb@infosec.exchange
@rrb@infosec.exchange The Gamergate article is what you feared those others to be. :/
Replying to @skeletor@mas.to
@skeletor@mas.to Drink alone. Drink another. Drink to be social. Not sure I can get on board with this one.
Replying to @yoasif@mastodon.social
@yoasif I’m asking about the enclosure you are claiming. You have I think finally gotten to your thesis: if the WMF is enriched by $COMPANY then they will change their future behavior to protect that enrichment above the rights of the Wikimedia communities. Staying from the start that this is your personal speculation would have been helpful. I disagree with your thesis, but neither of us have a provable position in the near term.
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Replying to @yoasif@mastodon.social
@yoasif I’m still not understanding how the payment changes anything other than the funds in the Wikimedia Foundation’s balance sheet. Show me the new license terms please. The link you provided is a blog post that looks to be sourced from a Reuters article that in turn was sourced from a press release from Wikimedia Enterprise. The facts I can see there are about a handful of companies having signed up to use APIs where higher rate limits can be purchased. Where is the enclosure?
Replying to @yoasif@mastodon.social
@yoasif Can we agree that when $COMPANY downloads an xml dump or scrapes the website they are receiving content subjected to the CC-BY SA license if they republish significant excerpts of that content? What evidence can you present that an alternative license covers content that $COMPANY obtains from APIs after signing a contract with Wikimedia Enterprise? Or am I misunderstanding your claims?
Replying to @yoasif@mastodon.social
@yoasif I know this is tangential to your thesis, but if it does turn out that large language models are the magic trick that invalidates all intellectual property rights, or even just copyright, then you have discovered a beneficial use of the technology. I am personally attracted to copyleft as a use of copyright to prevent enclosure of my labor by capitalists. The point of copyright in the practice of copyleft is not upholding intellectual property rights as a benefit.
Replying to @yoasif@mastodon.social
@yoasif Nothing in your concept that any information passed through an LLM becomes public domain is related to usage of a particular API to obtain that information. These companies all already have the content produced by the Wikimedia movement or can have it with trivial effort. This is possible because the movement is about Open Knowledge, knowledge without licensing fees and boarders and resource hoarding. We gave it all away because that was the point from the start.
Replying to @yoasif@mastodon.social
@yoasif > Again, what are they paying for?
Rate of data transfer and depending on the API some pre-processing/aggregation done centrally rather than at the graph edge by the consumer.
Replying to @yoasif@mastodon.social
@yoasif As I am intending to use it, enclosure means the removal of property from the commons.
I participate in Open Knowledge movements to share in a gratis and libre pool of information. When I undertake contract for hire work without retaining a share-alike license for my own labors, my output which would have contributed to the commons is enclosed. If passing that work through an LLM eliminates copyright then I can use that magic to return my labor to the commons.
Replying to @dragon@lesbian.solutions
@dragon [x] I was an investor in a startup that burned CDs for clients with replication needs that didn’t meet pressed CD scale.