FabioTheNewOrder

Ok dude, I hope you’ll be happy once we will all be oppressed under your own kind of regime where disse terms are sent to gulags and there can be no other idea outside that imposed by the party. Now go support Russia with Tucker Carlson, Steve Bannon and their ilk, I heard they are having troubles finding good tools like you lately

Yeah sure, go aay that Russia is not imperialist to a Georgian or to an Abkhazian. You could also try with anyone from the Baltic region or from Afghanistan, if you prefer. May I remind you that even Nazis had the word “socialist” in their party name and that taking votes without assurance of anonymity is not a good way to test what people really feel about their government? Is there any other party outside the Chinese populist party who can use the same mainstream media reserved to the party? Does china allow third indipendent nations to scrutinize their election process? Do you understand that prominent right wing figures in America (mostly fascists) are currently hoping that Russia will win against Ukraine? How can you square allm this up and still believe what you believe? You might be really high on your clouds of lies, look out because the higher you are, the hardest the fall

I see a lot of articles about fascism in Ukraine but very few sources about an “ethnic cleansing” while, on thr other hand, the numbers provided with a in report show that the killing was almost halted before 2022, when Russia attacked and the deaths skyrocketed. I’m an Italian, I live in Italy and I can tell you most of the fascists around here either strive to serve in the military or in the police force. Yet I’d hardly define Italy a fascist state, even if we’re currently ran by a fascist-adjecent government. Still our judiciary, legal and police powers remain completely unrelated and indipendent and we citizens can vote out our government every 5 years (if it lasts that long, of course). On the other hand, can you say the same for Russia and Belarus? Oh, how I love being told I am irrational from you, you should have worked in a cinema since you’re so good at projecting

Lmao, you are supporting the same side of people like Candace Owens, Benny Johnson and Tim Pool and you’re calling me a fascist? Dude, there haven’t been free elections in Russia for the last 30 years, how long will it take you to understand that the time of the proletariat are over and that Putin, Xi and Kim are three of the last fascistic tyrant left in the modern world? Do you think people from Belarus are free to express what they think about Lukashenko? What will you get if you organise a pro-lgbt rally in Moscow? How would you like trying opening an indipendent new site in China? Get down your cloud man, you’re not fighting for everyday people, you’re fighting for dictators and tyrants but you’re too stubborn to even think about it

You got me right on euronationalist, the rest of your comment shows how little you understood about me. But that’s normal, you cannot fathom a left position which is not for a totalitarian regime based on an idea of communism which should have been terminated once the USSR fell ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

Western sources that are bought and paid by the kremlin like Pim Tool, Benny Johnson and all those involved in the Tenet Media scandal? Thanks but I prefer official sources instead of unverified and biased blog posts. The war is so unpopular that russian hasn’t been able to conquer no complete control on those regions still under its occupation. They are so beloved by Ukrainians that they cannot even have a stable form of government due to the lack of administrative personnel. What a support from the common population!!! Another thing are the eventual crimes committed during the war. Both Ukraine and Russia are doing terrible acts in this war and indipendent tribunals should be able to keep the perpetrators of such acts accountable once the war will end. But, ask yourself, had Russia not started this war would these war crimes ever been committed? The answer is no, of course, so in my eyes Russia still is the root cause for all the needles suffering both these countries are going through

Then tell the admins to at least show their names when banning someone from their instance. Cowards

And you still haven’t provided neutral evidences of what you call “ethnic cleansing” while I’ve provided you a report showing a steady decrease in violent deaths between 2014 and 2022 produced by the UN while Russia was still sitting in the board and confirmed the numbers cited. Also, how is Ukraine still capable of fighting against Russia if the majority of its people are not nazi and should be against their government according to you? Wouldn’t they be fighting alongside the russian should they want to be freed from their “tyrannical” government? And yet they are still fighting almost 4 years into this war. Unbelievable how much they love tyranny in that country

I didn’t delete shit, I was banned because there weren’t any counterarguments to the points I was presenting in my replies (which were also removed as well, would you look at that!). The best part is that the moderator who banned me is being kept anonymous, what a courageous bunch we got on lemmy.ml (⁠≧⁠▽⁠≦⁠) (⁠≧⁠▽⁠≦⁠)

Also, if you want to have a conversation please try to restrain yourself from banning your interlocutor. I know it’s hard to justify an homicidal regime but at least don’t make me wait 4 days to show you how wrong and stupid you are. If it’s not me doing so someone else or life itself will do so in due time, you cannot run away from truth your whole life (⁠◠⁠‿⁠◕⁠)

The worst kind of cope, as soon as you are presented with the truth of the matter, that Russia is a rogue state breaking international treaties by moving an unnecessary war to a neighbouring country, you immediately cope out by comparing fiscal sanctions placed by a completely different state not even on Russia directly to an all out war and, at the same time, you use the same reasoning presented by the USA you seem to reject to justify the atrocities of the Russian regime. Moreover, it was the USA who “broke the treaty” (I’d love to see exactly which points of the treaty were broken by imposing sanctions, as the treaty was to avoid armed conflicts and does not mention sanctions as far as I am aware), by imposing sanctions over Belarus, why isn’t Put-it-in attacking the real villain of this story (in your eyes) but an innocent country and people instead? Your kremlin-loving justifications never make any sense as long as one can think about them for more than a second; it’s astounding how wrong can a human being be on such an easy issue to understand

I’m specifically referring to the Budapest Memorandum of December the 5th 1994 where it was established that Russia would have kept the Ukrainian state indipendent and would not have tried to annex it again in the future against the returning of its atomic warheads. I see no russian warheads in Ukraine today but I have seen the little green men taking over Crimea before if 2014. Who broke the treaty then???

Again, being no homophobe but still straight it is of no consequence to me if someone calls me gay or homo. But try to call an homophobe gay and you’ll see how much he sheetes at what he percive as an insult. If you see calling someone an homosexual as an insult the problem is not with me but with yourself. Try understanding better your pansexuality before calling other homophobes ;)

Again, put-it-in admitted himself russia was supporting separatists militias in a military fashion well before 2014, when the Crimean war broke out. How can you so blindly keep on repeating that was Ukraine to break the treaties is beyond my understanding

I’ll read the essay cited as soon as I’ll have time, in the meantime though you cannot convince me that a movement whose ideals are of liberation and freedom can be enforced by oppressing the masses using tanks and rifles. If you need those to fight your fight you’re not fighting on the side of the people, you’re fighting to keep power to yourself, easy as that

No, I’m staying that the Ukrainian state fought against a militia armed and trained by the russian to steal the Crimean peninsula. While there were treaties in place preventing the russian from acting exactly like this. If you wage a coup against a state you cannot cry genocide when you are fought against by the state you attacked first

Did I hurt you when I mocked your head of state by changing his name? Awwwwwwwww, I’m sowwyyyyyyyyyyy There’s nothing homophobic in turning an homophobe like put-it-in in a gay joke, on the contrary is something which would engage him very much because, as a good homophobe, he cannot bear to be seen as a possible homosexual. It would share his idea of “alpha male” XD

Tankie is a pejorative to describe those who think they are communists but haven’t understood anything about communism themselves. Which is exactly what you are. Communism should bring the warfare to the ruling class, not to the working people like the Ukrainians. Anything that needs tanks to be enforced is no Communism, it’s just another failed political attempt to use Communism as a sheep hide to mask a fascistic wolf

Also, what made you think I’m an homophobe? Can you cite any omophobic contents from my posts? I bet you can’t, are you projecting stepbro?

Russia was invading militarily Crimea well before 2014, when you stated the ethnic cleansing against the russian population began. So we can see the so called “ethnic cleansing” as a measured response against a coup being carried out, which is a normal reaction any state would have should it territorial integrity being compromised. It’s not me plugging my ears, it’s you who don’t want to look at the historical evidences I provided you with because they go against your narrative. But as they say “blame others for your own acts and then cry foul” seems to be the only tactic left for the kremlin trolls online at this point

That’s the only answer you got when you don’t have anything supporting your points

Where have I used pejoratives against communists? Please cite me. I’m not battling for the banderites in Kiev, I’m battling for the Ukrainian people who is currently being erased by Mr. Put-it-in and his army. Case in point you won’t find any mention of the fascistic Bandera in my posts. Also, north korea is no socialist state as it is run by what essentially is a monarchy, while china has become a capitalistic hellhole bent to the god of money as few other states are nowadays. Finally seeing the numbers of a party grow is no indication of an improvement for russia since they cannot have free elections until put-it-in and his serfs will remain in power. You tried tankie, better luck next time

Also, I don’t see russians as inferior; I see them as a war-mongering people who needs to understand how one should behave in its relationship with other peoples. Exactly how I see americans, chineses, indians, pakistani and israelis to cite a few of the peoples who are currently engaged in a revamping of their state pride at the expenses of others

Lmao, telling me I hate Communism XD XD XD I fucking despite despots and the capitalist system, which are both well represented by the modern russian state. You tankies have completely lost your minds if you really think modern Russia has anything to do with Communism and/or Marxism

youtu.be/Ivkm9C8Qr_o Do the words of put-it-in himself are proof enough for you, little tankies?

Again, I’m racist against racists as I am violent against those who are violent. As long as the russian state, representing the russian people will keep on being openly racist towards Ukrainians or any other ethnicity I’ll be racist towards them (of course with clear exceptions, as I do know Russians who are against put-it-in, his regime and this senseless war against Ukraine). Go cry about it, tankie

I am denying the “evidences” you so poorly presented as, before and during 2014, it has been proved and confirmed by put-it-in himself that the Donbass and Luhansk separatist militias were being funded by the russian state in order to try to undermine Ukraine sovereignty in those regions while also keeping the animosity between the russian and Ukrainian people alive. Any kind of analysis which does not consider this data can be simply seen as russia propaganda.

I’m racist towards the racists, you finally got it or should I make you a drawing?? Can you point at a state television or newspaper in Europe being openly racist towards eastern or muslim people? And, be careful, I’ve clearly asked about STATE mainstream media like BBC, RAI, France Télévisions or ARD/ZDF. Until then please keep quiet :*

Are you able to cite sources who are not completely forgetful of the “green men” fighting against the Ukrainian state in eastern Ukraine before 2014 and being supported by put-it-in and the russian army? Because if not you should also be ok with israel when they say that Palestine does not exist and their land should be owned by israelis because the bible says they were there 2000 years ago… Are you a zionist as well perchance?

If russians were not racists we wouldn’t see blatant racism on state television and on state newspaper, as we don’t see it on mainstream media in Europe. Yet those media are encouraged and supported by both their institutions and the populace as well. As long as this continue I’ll be as racist as they are towards Ukrainians, not for being racist by itself but to treat this people the same way it treat others

And the russians used much worse slurs to talk about the Ukrainians. Did you get butthurt against their racism as well or do you suffer from “partial loathing syndrome” as all tankies do?

Ah yes, the famous “free referendum” held under gunpoint, how could I forget?? Also, can you cite any source for the “ethnic cleansing” being perpetrated by the Ukrainian against the russians since 2014 in the Donetsk and Luhansk? Because the UN from when russia was still sitting in the council reports something completely different… share.google/XaamDlq40m8hEDyOG

I’m not defending my own racism, I’m attacking the russian one. Hard to understand for you, I get it, but don’t make a fool of yourself anymore please

Russia can take Kiev whenever it wants!!

War long, russia has not won yet. Never sell the bear skin before having killed it, ever heard this saying?

As should the russians. Why should I be the first to correct my way when I haven’t even invaded my neighbour through a war which has killed tens of thousands of innocent people?

There won’t be any resistance as there hasn’t been any when the Russian first attacked without declaring war in the first place. I remember in 2022 before the invasion: “Russia will raise its eyebrows and Ukraine will understand” “the Ukrainian and the russian are brotherly people and we will be saluted as liberators when we will march into Kiev”. How did it ended up for your heroes, tankies? Also, seeing Ukraine as a military outpost for the USA when no military bases where on their land but Poland was a few km away must be the funniest cope I’ve ever read. Please do go on, I really need some laughs

It would be easier for me to avoid dehumanising the Russian if they weren’t the first one to dehumanise Ukrainians in their rhetoric. Do onto others as you would have them do onto you, if they feel bad for being compared to non-human concepts they might want to rethink their entire way of behaviour

They’ve been winning for the past for the past (almost) 4 years. Are they not tired of winning? Or are they just coping hard?

As I said elsewhere, I’ll leave the cope to those who have mastered this art like yourself :)

How should I call an army invading a neighbour country if not a “horde”? Viruses? Bacteria? Tell me what analogy I should use and I’ll do it

As the Russians are doing since the start of their “2 weekz military operation”? I’m not good enough brother, I’ll leave the cope to those who have mastered it

That’s what I’ve been saying to tankies all this time but they refuse to listen ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

Nobody has paid for the drones used by Ukraine for free, except those who were paid by money collected through voluntary donations by private citizens like myself. The states who partook in the war effort did so in form of loans to the Ukrainian state. Loans are to be repaid in time and are no gift Not only the CIA has shared intel with Ukraine, the English, French, Italian, Polish and German services also are reporting their findings to Ukraine, especially since when the cheeto-in-command has decided that the CIA should cooperate less with the sbu because his friend put-it-in was being butthurt too much on the battlefield Nobody’s using Ukraine as a proxy, Ukraine is defending itself from an aggressor and other states are supporting its endeavours as they see fit. To stop this “proxy” war as you call it, it would suffice for Russia to return its troops to its territory. As long as they will be occupying Ukrainian land the resistance against its occupation will not stop, wether it be a structured fight between two armies or a resistance guerrilla by lone men and groups against the invader So, who’s the delusional one here?

Said the one defending the only actor in this war using the same tactics used by Hitler before the start of ww2. If you weren’t a brainwashed tankie you’d be even amusing but, alas, you’re only a mouthpiece for the last vestige of the Russian dictatorship

Check the box you placed your brain it, it might be filled with russian propaganda.

Lmao, the only way to respond to my criticism to this meme is to cancel my reply. Obvious tyrannical people being themselves as always

As an European I feel you haven’t understood anything about what’s happening with Ukraine. America is not the only country helping the Ukrainian people in their fight against the russian horde. We Europeans have done more than the USA to provide Ukraine with weapons, intelligence and resources, but still you Americans are trying to be seen as the end all be all in this war once again. You weren’t the ultimate heroes during ww2 and you definitely aren’t the best supporter of Ukraine today, as Mr. Cheeto-in-Chief is showing in his public declarations on a daily basis. Plus, all the drones and intelligence you “supposedly” handled to the Ukrainians are still being used by Ukrainians to defend themselves against their invader, you cannot call this a “proxy war” while Ukrainians are being bombed on a daily basis and Mr. Cheeto-in-Chief is snuggling up to his handler, Mr. Put-it-in. .ml being delusional as usual, nothing new under the sun