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@FabioTheNewOrder@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent
Nobody has paid for the drones used by Ukraine for free, except those who were paid by money collected through voluntary donations by private citizens like myself. The states who partook in the war effort did so in form of loans to the Ukrainian state. Loans are to be repaid in time and are no gift Not only the CIA has shared intel with Ukraine, the English, French, Italian, Polish and German services also are reporting their findings to Ukraine, especially since when the cheeto-in-command has decided that the CIA should cooperate less with the sbu because his friend put-it-in was being butthurt too much on the battlefield Nobody’s using Ukraine as a proxy, Ukraine is defending itself from an aggressor and other states are supporting its endeavours as they see fit. To stop this “proxy” war as you call it, it would suffice for Russia to return its troops to its territory. As long as they will be occupying Ukrainian land the resistance against its occupation will not stop, wether it be a structured fight between two armies or a resistance guerrilla by lone men and groups against the invader So, who’s the delusional one here?
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@Cowbee@lemmy.ml on lemmy.ml Open parent
Ukraine is supported by the western empire for the same reason Israel is, it’s a glorified US millitary base in the region surrounded by geopolitical adversaries. Russia will not stop their advance while they are clearly winning, and the Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics already voted to join the Russian Federation. The idea that there will be guerilla resistance is just unfounded, Kiev has been at war with the Donbass region for a decade. Europe is increasingly being demoted from imperialist vassals of the US Empire to periphery countries. Europe has very little hard power compared to the major players in the world stage and is utterly dependent on the US Empire’s hard power. The soft power Europe has is slipping as well. No amount of your homophobic pejoratives will change the fact that Europe doesn’t bring much to the table despite being the loudest ones there, and that’s why they are in fewer and fewer international talks where major powers are involved.
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@FabioTheNewOrder@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent
There won’t be any resistance as there hasn’t been any when the Russian first attacked without declaring war in the first place. I remember in 2022 before the invasion: “Russia will raise its eyebrows and Ukraine will understand” “the Ukrainian and the russian are brotherly people and we will be saluted as liberators when we will march into Kiev”. How did it ended up for your heroes, tankies? Also, seeing Ukraine as a military outpost for the USA when no military bases where on their land but Poland was a few km away must be the funniest cope I’ve ever read. Please do go on, I really need some laughs
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@Cowbee@lemmy.ml on lemmy.ml Open parent
The people of Donetsk and Luhansk, who voted to join the Russian Federation, seem to be happy with the way the war is going. Kiev was ethnically cleansing them since 2014, after all, so that checks out. As for Ukraine being a glorified millitary outpost, again, it’s similar to Israel. Ukraine gets arms from NATO, is cozy with NATO, and is in general a highly millitarized country. Poland is also governed by the far-right, this isn’t the grand own you think it is. Europe since the end of World War II has been subservient to the US Empire, that isn’t new. What’s new is Europe’s demotion from vassal to periphery, which is an ongoing process accelerated in recent years.
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@FabioTheNewOrder@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent
Ah yes, the famous “free referendum” held under gunpoint, how could I forget?? Also, can you cite any source for the “ethnic cleansing” being perpetrated by the Ukrainian against the russians since 2014 in the Donetsk and Luhansk? Because the UN from when russia was still sitting in the council reports something completely different… share.google/XaamDlq40m8hEDyOG
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@Cowbee@lemmy.ml on lemmy.ml Open parent
Here are some compiled by @cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml -https://www.sott.net/article/467441-Burned-alive-How-the-2014-Odessa-massacre-became-a-turning-point-for-Ukraine -https://21stcenturywire.com/2014/11/17/natos-nazis-ethnic-cleansing-their-opposition-in-east-ukraine/ -https://sarahwestall.com/yes-its-true-evidence-of-genocide-crimes-against-humanity-towards-russians-in-ukraine/ -https://commondreamsnews.com/the-donbass-russians-subject-to-unparalleled-ethnic-cleansing/ -https://csegr.ru/discrimination-against-russians-in-ukraine-eng/ -https://www.voltairenet.org/article184430.html
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@FabioTheNewOrder@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent
Are you able to cite sources who are not completely forgetful of the “green men” fighting against the Ukrainian state in eastern Ukraine before 2014 and being supported by put-it-in and the russian army? Because if not you should also be ok with israel when they say that Palestine does not exist and their land should be owned by israelis because the bible says they were there 2000 years ago… Are you a zionist as well perchance?
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@Cowbee@lemmy.ml on lemmy.ml Open parent
Are you denying the evidence of ethnic cleansing, or are you supporting the ethnic cleansing because ethnic Russians are victims? I’m anti-zionist and anti-Banderite.
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@FabioTheNewOrder@lemmy.world · Dec 12
I am denying the “evidences” you so poorly presented as, before and during 2014, it has been proved and confirmed by put-it-in himself that the Donbass and Luhansk separatist militias were being funded by the russian state in order to try to undermine Ukraine sovereignty in those regions while also keeping the animosity between the russian and Ukrainian people alive. Any kind of analysis which does not consider this data can be simply seen as russia propaganda.
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