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Post #852583

2026-01-11 23:45 UTC

Argh, I'd really like to build up a local tech collective here that can support more liberatory tech... Small projects, e.g. community gardens, often struggle with wordpress websites, and I get asked to help... ... but I don't want to be the sucker hidden away maintaining ancient wordpress sites for free/little money for years... (that probably people hardly visit anyway). Anyone have advice/tips/experiences here?

Replies (15)

  • @nick@bath.social How often do they actually post? Would a static HTML website template work just as easily for them?

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  • @ahaldorsen@tutoteket.no 2026-01-12 06:57

    @nick@bath.social Absolutely agree, and I would also like to hear experiences about this. We should normalize tech people volunteering to help local organizations, building the tech they want/need. I guess there are many well qualified developers etc who just don't think about this is being an option.

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  • @jarofgreen@mastodon.online 2026-01-12 07:49

    @nick@bath.social "hardly anyone visits" - maybe but as long as the right people visit it's still worth it. Maybe can ask to hear any human feedback the org gets instead of relying on website stats to check value of work? Anyway, have some experience here but no special answers or thoughts you probably haven't already thought of. I'll have a think though. In Scotland there have been a few things, only website I can find now is https://www.scottishtecharmy.org/

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  • @douginamug@mastodon.xyz 2026-01-12 10:51

    @nick@bath.social real struggle 😢 This situation was a motivator for @abekonge@venner.network to make https://codeberg.org/ukrudt.net/lichen-markdown I believe

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  • @da5nsy@social.coop 2026-01-12 12:37

    @nick@bath.social I think we're still a little way from it but I hope in a few years we'll have tools which allow someone to build and update a website with a very gentle technical on-ramp. I just made a static site for a project I'm working on (https://social.coop/@da5nsy/115882138714608854), and the process is still quite tricky for someone completely new to it, but I could imagine some of the trickier bits getting smoothed out eventually.

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  • @adamgreenfield@social.coop 2026-01-13 15:54

    @nick@bath.social @da5nsy@social.coop You know what I’d really love is to function as kind of a UX counselor/end-user advocate in this process. This stack so desperately needs to be brought into being, but with equal desperation needs to be retrieved from arcane language and nonobvious workflow.

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  • @adamgreenfield@social.coop 2026-01-13 16:48

    @nick@bath.social @da5nsy@social.coop I’m willing to invest some of my own energy upfront if it saves many people energy downstream.

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  • @LibertyBeta@metalhead.club 2026-01-12 13:38

    @nick@bath.social If it’s mostly static I offer Hugo or Jekyll and throw it up on my VPC. Something with migration overhead and not maintenance overhead. Kind of like putting up a flyer in a shopfront. I already have the shopfront.

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  • @danielquinn@mastodon.social 2026-01-12 13:42

    @nick@bath.social for my money, pouring your energy into setting up a makerspace is the best use of your time. You build community around a (hopefully physical) space and let that community teach itself. Otherwise, you end up operating as a hub in a hub/spoke model, placing a lot of load on you personally.

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  • @nick@bath.social in a similar boat here. i've been thinking about developing a diy repair/maintenance club, and realized i don't want to spend my life fixing other people's broken shit. i already have that job for my family :D i've been leaning towards education - teach people how to maintain/repair things themselves, and offer encouragement and tools. they get the responsibility and pride of ownership. and fwiw, wordpress is the original problem that got me here in the first place. getting wp out of my life involved writing a tiny CMS called kiki https://tomotama.com/kiki getting wp out of my life was the best move i've made in decades 😆

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  • @ewen@social.ewenbell.com 2026-01-13 00:40

    @nick@bath.social I think this kind of question often gets replies that focus on which technology is better for low-tech owners. WordPress vs Ghost vs SquareSpace vs Hugo for example. My experience is that the choice of tech is rarely the problem, rather it's just really difficult to motivate someone to update their website when they simply have no interest in updating websites. Have seen this with many friends who run small businesses. They just have zero interest in managing their website, but they know they gotta have one. It's a painful path for them, and whoever they hire to do it. For some friends I simply offer to build it, host it and edit when necessary. And this is precisely the situation to avoid for community groups! Finding anyone who is generally interested in taking in the web editing role is gold. Then we nurture such souls and hope they remain in the community for a long time to come.

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  • @gruff@stroud.social 2026-01-12 04:32

    @nick@bath.social So many small orgs have these simple needs. Even just basic governance. Simple collaboration tools. But without reliance on a tech guy. Self hosting is still way too difficult. Paid solutions are stratospheric per seat cost wise. And yes, I recognise being that sucker!

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  • @kim@social.gfsc.studio 2026-01-28 10:31

    @nick@bath.social did you see my little static site that builds from the placecal api? https://github.com/geeksforsocialchange/plaparsi/

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  • @amelia@gts.spoonstack.org 2026-01-31 01:30

    @nick@bath.social From my own personal experience: focus on the community relationships first and foremost. Let the tech work be an almost-afterthought. It's much harder to end up getting quietly taken advantage of (even by sheer accident) when we're regularly communicating, setting boundaries, and navigating consent and transparency with each other. It's an approach that's outside the comfort zone for many, but if you're not confident about doing this already, I promise learning the skills will do more for your tech work than anything else you could try to pick up.

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  • @OliviaVespera@spacey.space 2026-01-31 06:53

    @nick@bath.social join or run a repair cafe. do a skill share workshop and teach people basic tech. Build up your relationships with community groups. Don't be hidden away maintaining someone else's infrastructure, teach them how to run their own infrastructure. Build a community server for people to host things. Some amount of community building will be about helping them out with their problems so they understand your value. Use that time to teach and ask for help too. Mutual Aid not charity.

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