Post #606591

2026-03-08 18:06 UTC

i have a feeling that everyone who is arguing about LLMs in the sense of stuff like productivity, quality of the output, performance or functionality of generated code, largely even licensing or whatnot is kinda missing the point even if LLMs generated the best code in the world, i would not be using them even if LLMs gave me the biggest ever productivity boost i would not be using them even if the output was clean copyright-wise and fully original, i would still not be using them i can't consciously support a worldwide slop machine that helps and finances the rise of fascism, that helps further oppression, that helps a bunch of billionaires control public opinion, that drives society-wide psychosis with far-reaching consequences, that attempts to strip all joy from activities people like while using that to make the rich even richer, and that's not even getting to environmental stuff or whatever i'm getting left behind you say well fuck your industry and fuck you

Replies (17)

@SRAZKVT__dup_48920@tech.lgbt 2026-03-08 18:09

@q66 if i can't get hired for what i like, then i only do it because i like it, and i don't fear being "left behind"

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@reiddragon@fedi.catto.garden 2026-03-08 18:19

@q66 even if you completely ignore the financial ties with technofascists, LLMs and other GenAI models are more or less responsible for a mass psychosis. You can't trust anyone or anything you see online, you can't trust the code powering our digital lives. People actively using these models are led to believe they're so much smarter while actively having their brains rotted because why bother having a brain if you can just ask ChatGPT or Claude or w/e for anything. Of course, you *can't* ignore the ties with technofascists because this is their work. Being able to just ask a chatbot for anything makes you unwilling to do any thinking yourself until you become unable to do it anymore. And at that point you're a slave to whoever owns the chatbots.

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@zaire@fedi.absturztau.be 2026-03-08 18:42

@q66 and that being said those are some massive ifs i dont see the slopdustry getting over

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@rick@a.n0id.space 2026-03-08 18:54

@q66 so true.. and what i really hate, is that more an more foss projects jump on that wagon too.. its becomming really hard to find software which codebase i can 'trust'

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@fun@berkeley.edu.pl 2026-03-09 10:59

@q66 I typically mention copyright issues, unproductivity and bad code to the uninitiated, but yes the issues with LLMs are deeper than just that. And personally, really I just .. like writing code myself? You can't be better served by anyone but yourself, that's the thing.

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@quincy@chaos.social 2026-03-09 12:00

@q66 I feel the same way about this.

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@TheOneDoc@tech.lgbt 2026-03-10 19:18

@q66 couldn't have said it better myself.

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@furrfu@mastodon.social 2026-03-12 22:36

@q66 I'm not getting left behind. I'm *staying* behind.

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@noodlemaz@mstdn.games 2026-03-12 22:38

@q66 hard same

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@gulfie@mastodonapp.uk 2026-03-12 23:01

@q66 this. I’m with you. 💯

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@dzwiedziu@mastodon.social 2026-03-12 23:24

@q66 Yep, I'm left behind at the queue to the bio-foundries¹ or brain smoothers. Soundtrack (cw for manual meat processing, no blood): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1jQKpse7Yw 1 https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Necrons#Biotransference_and_the_Rise_of_the_Necrons

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@cxiao@infosec.exchange 2026-03-13 02:06

@q66 @peterhuene Yes exactly. Technologists are making the same mistake we have always made: Engaging with new shiny tools on the level of capabilities and technical curiosity rather than on an ideological level. This is a grave mistake when the people behind the modern AI industry have made it very clear that THEY think of AI ideologically, and have made it very clear what that ideology is. I am once again once again asking everyone to read the Toolmen essay, by @aworkinglibrary : https://aworkinglibrary.com/writing/toolmen

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@benjamineskola@hachyderm.io 2026-03-13 11:11

@q66 for me there’s a sort of, idk feedback loop? between the quality/productivity aspect and the ethical aspect. like: even if these were sufficiently ethical, they’re not actually any good at what they’re supposed to be good at, so why bother? and even if they were actually effective and useful tools, they’re completely unethical and so unusable. can’t escape from either side.

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@condret@fedi.absturztau.be 2026-03-13 13:50

@q66 i'm sorry, but i don't see how burning billionaire's money is supporting them. if i use a free plan for example, they are losing money. i know, their bet is that i'd rely on ai at some point, so they increase the price and enshittify the thing, the usual strategy. call it hubris, but i don't think i would rely on it in order to code.

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@kkarhan@infosec.space 2026-03-08 18:10

@q66 THIS - ALL OF THIS! TYSM FOR THESE WORDS!!!

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@domi@donotsta.re 2026-03-08 23:00

@q66 i’m not even using this shitty technology and i’m already paying the price in bandwidth and increased idle CPU usage on my infra. hecking pain. from the perspective of a sysadmin sharing stuff for free, I wouldn’t use LLMs even if all of the issues you listed were solved. ffs

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@cmccullough@polymaths.social 2026-03-09 12:13

@q66 Yes! This!

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