Post #303708
2025-09-24 02:17 UTC
Replies (15)
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@grouchox@freeradical.zone 2026-01-05 01:12
@Azzura@lgbtqia.space keep in mind laugther is a social signal. It's normal, even when not a sign of mirth. Sorta like saying "Uh-huh" in a conversation. It can mean a million things and nothing (yes, also "please don't hurt me".) Taken by itself, I wouldn't see it as a sign of distress. Or patriarchy.
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@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange 2026-01-05 03:11
@Azzura@lgbtqia.space @deborahh@cosocial.ca 💚
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@echedellelr@masfloss.net 2026-01-05 07:20
@Azzura@lgbtqia.space as autistic person and as a trans girl, I did not call it like that. But that laugh was also to fit in NT spaces
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@Anoia@mendeddrum.org 2026-01-05 08:34
@benroyce@mastodon.social @Azzura@lgbtqia.space in chimpanzees the fear grin is well documented https://iere.org/what-does-it-mean-when-a-chimp-smiles/
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@midnakrystal@sadbitches.online 2026-01-05 07:57
@Azzura@lgbtqia.space holy fuck thank you for realising this, I used to have to do this all the time with so many family members. you are a scholar
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@Nero@chaos.social 2026-01-05 09:51
@Azzura@lgbtqia.space These are social norms and peer pressure, yes they are inherently oppressive. Main drivers are parents and uprising. But blaming these things on cis men ("patriarchy") is insane, but not unsurprising. Parents as norm-givers are hard to identify as such.
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@Thebratdragon@mastodon.scot 2026-01-05 10:01
@Azzura@lgbtqia.space the classic smile that never reaches the eyes that authors love.
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@Azzura@lgbtqia.space 2026-01-05 10:39
@CosmicCollective@mastodon.social I hope you're okay :neobot_hug_cat:
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@Tattie@eldritch.cafe 2026-01-05 10:33
@Azzura@lgbtqia.space yep, even before transition I used this as a survival tactic. The fawning, the pleasing, until I can extract myself from the situation.
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@ljrk@todon.eu 2026-01-05 11:21
@Azzura@lgbtqia.space It's the "chuckles, I'm in danger" from the Simpsons meme. And I know it very well
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@jetlagjen@gts.phillipsuk.org 2026-01-05 12:35
@Azzura@lgbtqia.space what you have witnessed is an example of the fawn response. Flight and fight are well understood. You get the hell out or you punch. These are often typically masculine responses to dangerous situations. Boys are taught to be big and brave, they are rewarded for boisterous behaviour. Flight and fight are the only options from this perspective. But girls are typically punished for being or appearing physically strong or socially dominant. So we learn appeasement. We do that nervous, uncomfortable laugh. We nod and smile. We de-escalate and plan our escape. Sometimes fawning isn't enough and we resort to the fourth defense strategy: freeze. When you don't know what might make things worse, you do nothing. You try very hard to be irrelevant. Obviously, people, gender, society, etc are all highly complex and there are many examples that don't fit the pattern. Being a "yes man" is also a form of the fawn response. But the pattern still exists. I'm glad you've seen this much of it. Now consider how it interacts with such phrases as "she was asking for it," and "she should have fought back."
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@michellebacon@mstdn.social 2026-01-05 14:01
@Azzura@lgbtqia.space Yep. Nailed it.
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@mdione@en.osm.town 2026-01-05 15:05
@Azzura@lgbtqia.space a friend of mine used to laugh a lot. When I asked, she told me she laughed because she was shy and found it a way to blend in. I used not to trust people that laughed a lot; she made me change my mind.
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@BernieDoesIt@mstdn.social 2026-01-07 20:24
@Azzura@lgbtqia.space @Tattie@eldritch.cafe Uh oh, I think I've done that laugh.
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@benroyce@mastodon.social 2026-01-05 07:33
@Azzura@lgbtqia.space laughter usually involves smiling smiling is the baring of your teeth, which has many different meanings in different mammals, but a big one is its a threat posture so in a way, it's a perfectly valid response to aggression, in the broader themes of mammalian facial responses