Post #2961414

2025-09-25 20:04 UTC

@jonpsp@mstdn.social @cfy@mas.to @edzilla@social.edzilla.info @AlisonW@fedimon.uk The two problems with any "ID card" are (1) It opens the door to a police state, the moment the government decides that you can be stopped on the street and arrested for failing to "produce your papers". (Like happened to me in France.) (2) It's a one stop shop for identity thieves. At the moment to assume my identity and completely fuck up all aspects of my life someone would have to break into multiple systems: with an ID card that reduces to just one.

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@cfy@mas.to 2025-09-25 22:03

@TimWardCam@c.im @jonpsp@mstdn.social @edzilla@social.edzilla.info @AlisonW@fedimon.uk ad 1) a police state can be introduced with or without an ID. A police state can easily introduce IDs if they weren't there before - it's not a prerequisite and doesn't make it more or less likely. Police in a state without IDs can still arrest you and keep you until you've proven your identity. ad 2) IDs make identity theft harder: more difficult to falsify than a bank statement or utility bill and IDs /2

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@g_boccia@mastodon.uno 2025-09-26 07:59

@TimWardCam@c.im @jonpsp@mstdn.social @cfy@mas.to @edzilla@social.edzilla.info @AlisonW@fedimon.uk It is just a transcript from the residents record with your picture for identification purposes.

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@technicaladept@techhub.social 2025-09-26 09:00

@TimWardCam@c.im @jonpsp@mstdn.social @cfy@mas.to @edzilla@social.edzilla.info @AlisonW@fedimon.uk regarding number 2. You could look at it from another viewpoint. As the multiple systems are not always the same, to protect against identity theft you need to protect multiple systems. If everything requires Digital ID then you only need to protect one. Of course centralising all efforts into one target means then when it breaks that's a bigger deal but you can't have everything.

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@underseamonkey@fosstodon.org 2025-09-26 14:19

@TimWardCam@c.im @jonpsp@mstdn.social @cfy@mas.to @edzilla@social.edzilla.info @AlisonW@fedimon.uk 3) It's inevitably going to result not just in identity theft but personal data leakage. Got information about you that your employer/bank/insurer/etc isn't supposed to access and act on? Exactly how strong do you think those virtual guardrails are going to be?

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