Post #2875507
2026-05-26 18:09 UTC
Replies (7)
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@davetron5000@ruby.social 2026-05-26 18:46
@CoralineAda@ruby.social i was just thinking that the places where the AI-brained CEOs have fired legal and HR are ripe for organizing. because what can the company really do?
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@paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange 2026-05-26 18:32
@CoralineAda@ruby.social somehow, tech workers bought into the myth that with stock/stock options, they were "owners" like the actual stake holders. nope. never been true. it's always been workers vs owners and the way you get any leverage at all as workers is unions. the co-opting and corrupting of some major unions by organized crimes gave the government and owners an excuse to blame unions but organized crime was the issue, not unions. time for serious growth in union membership.
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@foolishowl@social.coop 2026-05-26 18:49
@CoralineAda@ruby.social Most of the big tech companies have a two-tiered labor force, where only a minority are direct employees and the majority of tech workers are "contract" workers who, through legal fictions and some hostile court rulings, aren't considered employees of the company they actually work for and aren't legally entitled to collective representation with that company. Most labor organizing efforts in tech I've seen, in those companies, only tried to organize the direct employees. I've never seen a labor union articulate a strategy for organizing contract workers; at best I've gotten some organizers to acknowledge it's a problem without a word how they might address the problem.
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@emilianosandri@mastodon.bsd.cafe 2026-05-26 20:39
@CoralineAda@ruby.social It's not that easy, leftists calls to "just unionize bro" are out of touch as neoliberals who suggests to unhoused people to "just get a place to live". Unions may work if workers have some bargaining power but when that work become mostly automatized that bargaining power disappears, an historical example are elevator drivers. The fact that tech workers aren't even essential workers as truck drivers or nurses are further weakens any effort to unionize. Growing up I saw automotive workers in my country doing countless strikes and protests and ending up laid off anyways. I saw my teachers striking too getting very little out of it. So excuse me if I don't want to waste my time with that, to me strike and unions are a toll who became less and less useful in the last 50 years, we can discuss what brought us to this situation but in the meantime we can just play with the cards we get dealt.
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@obscurestar@mastodon.social 2026-05-26 21:10
@CoralineAda@ruby.social Nobody put a gun to anyone's head and made them code in Javascript either and yet here we are. Perhaps humans are just not good at making good choices.
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@gemelen@mammut.moe 2026-05-26 22:02
@CoralineAda@ruby.social There was and there is no global or regional workforce in tech in the meaning that any significant amount of people considered other people in that industry of the same merit even without rising the race/gender/religion/nationality differences. If an MIT-educated white cishet SWE at Google looked down say at a University of Georgia white cishet SWE at Google, there were no chance they'd agree to unionise even between them. They might only join for a moment in order to humiliate somebody a bit more different during the interview.
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@canleaf@mastodon.social 2026-05-27 02:16
@CoralineAda@ruby.social I remember tech as a trans heaven. Until the workload intensified and the diversity reduced.