Post #2786279
2026-05-15 16:41 UTC
Replies (24)
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@ignova@sunny.garden 2026-05-15 17:29
@chartier@toot.cafe the curse of good government is that it is invisible, which leads people to believe that government does nothing.
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@CountHoldem@mastodon.social 2026-05-15 17:54
@chartier@toot.cafe #DemocraticSocialist #Revolution
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@Quasit@kolektiva.social 2026-05-15 18:38
@chartier@toot.cafe The author Lord Dunsany wrote a very short story on that topic at the time: THE FOOD OF DEATH Death was sick. But they brought him bread that the modern bakers make, whitened with alum, and the tinned meats of Chicago, with a pinch of our modern substitute for salt. They carried him into the dining-room of a great hotel (in that close atmosphere Death breathed more freely), and there they gave him their cheap Indian tea. They brought him a bottle of wine that they called champagne. Death drank it up. They brought a newspaper and looked up the patent medicines; they gave him the foods that it recommended for invalids, and a little medicine as prescribed in the paper. They gave him some milk and borax, such as children drink in England. Death arose ravening, strong, and strode again through the cities. - "Fifty-One Tales" (1915), by Lord Dunsany https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/lord-dunsany/fifty-one-tales #Books #Bookstodon #LordDunsany #Dunsany #FreeEbooks #QuasitBookRecs
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@dallo@pouet.chapril.org 2026-05-15 18:55
@chartier@toot.cafe Can you fix the "kill" in the alt text. Censuring is problematic
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@VoxOfGod@beige.party 2026-05-15 19:05
@chartier@toot.cafe ⏫pure unadulterated capitalism IS killing us
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@cultdev@mastodon.social 2026-05-15 19:30
@chartier@toot.cafe the capitalism we have is killing us anyway, but it’s nice not to eat chalk macaroni
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@zazzoo@mstdn.ca 2026-05-15 20:27
@chartier@toot.cafe Leading to my ongoing rant about people who would argue, for any given subject: "Yes but that's a problem from the distant past. These things are no longer an issue!" THAT'S BECAUSE THERE'S REGULATIONS.
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@kevinashworth@mastodon.social 2026-05-15 20:31
@chartier@toot.cafe The number of people who are actively making a profit off of poisoning us is on the rise.
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@lemgandi@mastodon.social 2026-05-15 20:47
@chartier@toot.cafe And labor regulations are by and large written in blood.
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@sortius@infosec.exchange 2026-05-15 21:24
@chartier@toot.cafe Always funny seeing Americans say that stuff. Chlorine chicken, mystery beef, no testing regime, constant outbreaks of salmonella... yep, regulations are working great there
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@mousepotato@mastodon.social 2026-05-15 21:34
@chartier@toot.cafe or were never told about it to begin with?
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@laguiri@neopaquita.es 2026-05-15 21:41
@chartier@toot.cafe @DoomsdaysCW@kolektiva.social Oh, let me tell you an anecdote. The European Union has been very slow in coordinating and unifying its consumer protections. Spain joined the EEC in 1986. But back in 1984 we had one of the strictest consumer protection laws; it took years for the EU to "reach us" in stuff like informative labels. We also had quirks like a prohibition of bulk buying (as in, unpackaged) to final consumers. And it was because back in 1981, 330 people died and thousands got seriously ill from industrial-use oil sold as food-grade. To this day, people won't buy canola oil because the name sounds as poison. The case was a form of collective trauma.
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@rayotron@mstdn.social 2026-05-15 21:41
@chartier@toot.cafe Bread in the US and UK in the 18th and 19th centuries was often adulterated with plaster, alum, bone meal, chalk, clay, or sawdust. Unadulterated capitalism = adulterated bread (& etc). https://archive.org/details/b21531006
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@retrimental@mastodon.social 2026-05-15 22:41
@chartier@toot.cafe This is a lie, right? Tell me this is a lie, goddammit.
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@estelle@mstdn.social 2026-05-15 23:11
@chartier@toot.cafe given that these reforms were due to the muckraking journalism era, it's entirely possible that some of them weren't told about this
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@Beggarmidas@mastodon.social 2026-05-15 23:28
@chartier@toot.cafe BWAHAHAHAHA...Oh, dear sweet naive child. In some economic systems just COMPLAINING that they were being fed spoiled food measurably could kill them faster than the tainted goods themselves. You think it's capitalism forcing one quarter of north korea to starve to death? Capitalism that created the Holodomor? Become a better student of history. Regulations in many nations were ENTIRELY because it's ruling class enjoyed them was standard faire across the world until the late 1800's.
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@decapitae@mastodon.social 2026-05-15 23:48
@chartier@toot.cafe Fast Forward to 2026 - Now, look and see
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@karl@linksextrem.ist 2026-05-16 00:30
@chartier@toot.cafe as does regulated capitalism, in the long run, by disturbing the climate. Or wars.
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@Tooden@aus.social 2026-05-16 01:43
@chartier@toot.cafe Will kill people. IS killing people.
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@babble_endanger@freeradical.zone 2026-05-16 03:01
@chartier@toot.cafe chalk is actually safe to eat and a good vegan source of calcium. Tums antacids are basically chalk
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@gooba42@mastodon.social 2026-05-16 03:03
@chartier@toot.cafe Moreover, it should be expensive. Regulations exist to make it more expensive to do the ethically wrong things than the right things. Non-compliance should be a terrifying, life-ruining event for a business.
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@aatch@mastodon.nz 2026-05-16 06:32
@chartier@toot.cafe my "favourite" version of this is the fishing industry. Left to their own devices they will literally fish themselves out of business. Fisheries regulations are there to ensure that fisheries continue to exist.
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@pikesley@mastodon.me.uk 2026-05-16 08:29
@chartier@toot.cafe https://mastodon.me.uk/@pikesley/115060747983348417
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@Erebus_Amauro@ohai.social 2026-05-19 14:45
@chartier@toot.cafe "Pure unadulterated capitalism" is also what makes the black market run. Benefits above everything else, including morals and other ppl lives.