Post #1911584
2025-12-03 19:22 UTC
Replies (20)
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@hazelnoot@void.lgbt 2025-12-03 19:28
@mawr@plush.city is there any competitor in the “pay a flat-rate subscription and listen to basically any song ever published” space? That’s the only thing holding me back from a complete switch tbh
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@heatherhorns_lite@plush.city 2025-12-03 19:41
@mawr@plush.city grace suggested synfonium to me and I'm really enjoying it! Still migrating tracks over, but it seems great. You can stream a library built from multiple media sources!
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@astronema@social.translunar.academy 2025-12-03 19:52
@mawr@plush.city their ceo is funding ai powered war crimes as well. i don’t know the details but it sounded fuuuuuuucked
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@diemure@mastodontech.de 2025-12-03 19:55
@mawr@plush.city These are the reasons I made the switch to Qobuz this year - wasn't frictionless but I really like the service and quality. Amazing sound quality, reasonable price, afaik transparent and fair pay for the artists, no AI music, found nearly everything I searched for. I miss the lyrics feature and the UI is a bit fiddly, but those are minor complaints
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@ableijs@mstdn.social 2025-12-03 21:31
@mawr@plush.city Wat about #Funkwhale https://www.funkwhale.audio/ ? It's #federated, like #Mastodon
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@pussreboots@sfba.social 2025-12-03 21:57
@mawr@plush.city i would but I never started using it.
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@raphaelmorgan@disabled.social 2025-12-03 21:58
@mawr@plush.city considering all the very good reasons and evidence, I'm confused about the inclusion of an article that seems to be saying "Spotify doesn't like that Spotify users are opting into a third party service to train AI on their data" as evidence that Spotify is using the data to train AI? I'm willing to bet they are, but the link doesn't seem to show any evidence of that
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@duco@norden.social 2025-12-03 22:18
@mawr@plush.city while Spotify pushes AI generated music, Deezer is doing the opposite and tags AI generated music, and filters them out for their recommendation algorithms. So you only listen to AI generated music there, if you explicitly decide to listen to them. https://newsroom-deezer.com/2025/01/deezer-deploys-cutting-edge-ai-detection-tool-for-music-streaming/
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@xfts@fuzzies.wtf 2025-12-03 22:26
@mawr@plush.city I would boost this if it wasn't a lesser of two evils situation. YouTube music is just plain worse, and pays artists less than Spotify, as well as doing the exact same things. Tidal is good but lacks polish last I used it. There just really isn't any middle ground between good service and not evil here. Just pick a service that's good for user experience and support artists through merch sales and concert tickets. They make far more there than through any streaming platform. Use literally anything but streaming platforms would be a more fitting title. They're all bad.
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@hellomiakoda@pdx.social 2025-12-03 22:33
@mawr@plush.city I've gone mostly to my private server with MP3s and FLACs. Still working some bugs out with music sorting, but it streams well. I don't miss Spotify as much as I thought I would. Only feature I miss is easily using it as background music on PlayStation.
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@RedtailWorks@woof.tech 2025-12-03 23:59
@mawr@plush.city I use piracy
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@ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social 2025-12-04 02:36
@mawr@plush.city The arstechnica article about Unwrapped does not illustrate the point you are presenting it as, the article is not about spotify selling users data without consent, it is about spotify legally intervening in a third party buying data from individual users with consent to develop an AI that will compete with spotifys wrapped feature
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@ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social 2025-12-04 04:25
@mawr@plush.city This time I read the post directly from your instance and the article about Ek's investment in Helsing and it says nothing about warcrimes, in fact most of the article is about how Helsing is not supplying israel with weapons and that people boycotting israel were confusing that they are
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@J3317@allovertheplace.ca 2025-12-04 06:35
@mawr@plush.city so? i can see the hole not paying artists as a bad thing duh, but so what if they fund right wing podcasters, maby just don't listen to them if you don't like them, that's what i do
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@bitbraindev@mastodon.gamedev.place 2025-12-04 08:48
@mawr@plush.city slightly incorrect: the very AI drones are used to prevent warcrimes in Ukraine by shooting down Russian missles on European soil.
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@crypticcelery@chaos.social 2025-12-04 09:35
@mawr@plush.city thanks for the condensed overview, I have a few people to chat about this with… Though I might also need to do some further digging, some of the articles are very… “dry” in reporting about this, e.g. who of those is right-wing (I have only ever heard of one of them), …. And maybe the nice comparisons on streaming payouts…
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@fennek@bark.lgbt 2025-12-04 10:23
@mawr@plush.city good Time that I never used Spotify before and dont will start with it. I prefer the old way and download music and listen to them offline without ads :blobfoxfloofhappy:
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@memdmp@catgirl.center 2025-12-04 12:35
@mawr@plush.city here's some - not good but atleast they're not nearly as horrid as spotify - alternatives to consider if you're using spotify: - https://tidal.com/ (ripping tool, defaults to lossy and kinda annoying but works - check config thouroughly!!) - https://qobuz.com/ (ripping tool) - https://deezer.com/ (ripping tool) - youtube music (ripping tool) also, if you're able to: rip any music you really want to keep from streaming services and keep backups!! all streaming services will randomly have some music disappear due to licensing, sometimes temporarily sometimes permanently. also being able to move to self hosted solutions is good.
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@memdmp@catgirl.center 2025-12-19 18:26
@mica@mk.absturztau.be @mawr@plush.city they do, but some ppl dont have the money to pay for each release they want a copy of (i dont have money for the 10k-ish songs i have on my music server for example), and there paying the streaming fee and ripping a few thousand songs is substantially cheaper/more accessible i tend to buy the releases I've listened to most within a certain budget every few months to still get artists paid without bankrupting myself
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@guigsy@mstdn.social 2025-12-04 13:55
@mawr@plush.city I switched to Tidal... They pay artists 3 times more than Spotify and don't have the play threshold. The library is pretty good. Works with Sonos and Chromecast. And they don't appear to be publicly funding causes I'm against. So not ideal, but better than Spotify.