Post #1002516
2025-01-25 19:37 UTC
Replies (18)
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@datum@zeroes.ca 2025-01-25 20:49
@joshsusser I hope your autistic readers realize that is not advice for autistic people specifically, that is great advice for everyone especially younger folks need to explicitly hear it though, the younger the higher odds they don't need to hear it cuz they know so that's nice anyways hearing it explicitly empowers a person to call it out for what it is - which will make the "joker" feel super freaking awkward because as soon as at least 2 people are expressing disdain the recipient *feels it*, and the rest of the crowd - even folks who were laughing a second ago - are very likely to join in, which doesn't just neutralize the bigotry but vaccinates against it. Then everyone knows, make a bigoted joke and there's a risk of getting called out and losing face. The script I'll try to use is: "That's bigoted." "It's just a joke, have a sense of humor." "By making that joke you're trying to establish that it's fine to act bigoted as long as it's about them." "It was a joke!" "It was at best a test to see who you could be bigoted around. We're not here for that." anyways great advice!
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@tanyakaroli@expressional.social 2025-01-25 22:14
@joshsusser this is such a good explanation of the recruitment strategy of the extreme right. Thank you!
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@CindyWeinstein@zirk.us 2025-01-26 01:46
@joshsusser Amanda Marcotte wrote this very good column on MAGA and "humor." https://www.salon.com/2024/11/18/the-corruption-of-maga-comedy/
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@cy@fedicy.us.to 2025-01-26 16:59
What makes their humor suck is that they are frustrated and angry and seething, trying to joke as if they're not. Trying to hide their rage. Some of them are doing it to identify the secret evil commies among us (who don't laugh), and others are just terribly insecure about people discovering that they care way too much about hating something.
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@12thRITS@mstdn.social 2025-01-26 21:19
@joshsusser Trump never laughs. Never.
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@jackeric@beige.party 2025-01-26 21:39
@joshsusser it's just a joke, like on Top Gear
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@jaystephens@mastodon.social 2025-01-27 04:37
@joshsusser Always call out Schrödinger's douchebag. Always.
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@michaelgraaf@cheeseburger.social 2025-01-27 05:41
@joshsusser Isn't the function of humour generally to establish in- and out-groups?
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@androcat@toot.cat 2025-01-27 10:11
@joshsusser Asshole A : "I did something cruel" Asshole B : "lol" That's how it's a "joke".
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@n_dimension@infosec.exchange 2025-01-27 21:11
@joshsusser The right wing has no good comedians. Punching down is not funny.
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@Noortjevee@mstdn.social 2025-01-27 21:21
@joshsusser its the same as people harrasing public servant or harras people in the service industry, and go "tis just a prank" Im working on a thriller with a premise based on it.
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@dangrsmind@sfba.social 2025-01-27 22:18
@joshsusser Yes this is my exact experience. True.
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@onechrisn@social.vivaldi.net 2025-01-27 22:46
@joshsusser @kimlockhartga It was just a joke, but we are the butt of it.
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@ricci@discuss.systems 2025-01-28 00:38
@joshsusser I recommend reading "On Bullshit", it's a short read and helps explain a lot of current communication patterns: https://www2.csudh.edu/ccauthen/576f12/frankfurt__harry_-_on_bullshit.pdf
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@texanarchy@kolektiva.social 2025-01-28 01:30
@joshsusser second category of people: might not find it funny but don’t see what all the fuss is about it. Not part of the in group. More like easy marks.
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@anarkitty@radikal.social 2025-01-28 12:11
@joshsusser Hey, this is a good point and a very valuable lesson for people but could we make that point without using the word 'sociopath'? We can talk about people being bad without pathologizing them and using the language of psychiatric incarceration, language which has been used against us autists for a long time too(we were also once considered 'psychopaths'). If I had more space I would write something more detailed about the scientific issues with the category and its relation to racism.
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@bakuninboys@aus.social 2025-01-28 21:25
@joshsusser ok this is true but jokes are also somewhat high risk. It's possible to mess up a joke in the heat of the moment.
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@plsik@mastodon.social 2025-02-18 13:24
@joshsusser Game theory says that in a relational, transactional environment, people are rewarded for some attitudes and actions and punished for others. It's dynamic. We can change it.