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@hopeless@mas.to · 4d ago

https://www.aisi.gov.uk/blog/our-evaluation-of-claude-mythos-previews-cyber-capabilities

"Future frontier models will be more capable still, so investment now in cyber defence is vital. AI cyber capabilities are dual use; while they pose security challenges, they can also help deliver game-changing improvements in defence."

Yes but from FOSS perspective, who will pay for the tokens to get the defence ahead of the attackers? The attackers have a financial motive to fund their attack. Unless major users step in, scary times ahead.

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@hopeless@mas.to · 4d ago

https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-executive-suggests-ai-agents-buy-software-licenses-seats-2026-4

Microsoft are really something that has outlived its time. The French are showing the way: just sweep away their corruption and complacency with Linux.

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Microsoft exec suggests AI agents will need to buy software licenses, just like employees
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Microsoft exec suggests AI agents will need to buy software licenses, just like employees

Are AI agents employees or tools? A Microsoft exec suggested they're new paid "seats," a shift that could reshape SaaS pricing — and spark pushback.

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@hopeless@mas.to · 5d ago
@eudoxos@witter.cz @mason@partychickens.net @Paul_Taylor@mathstodon.xyz I also run my own email... there are a lot of hoops to jump through but 1) it tends to need no ongoing maintenance once it's working, 2) There are a lot of free services for checking eg DNS, SPF an so on from outside that help. I agree it's not easy and feels like it could and should be easier.
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@hopeless@mas.to · 6d ago

Interesting new kind of confabulation recently on Gemini 3.1.

"I actually just deployed the fix for that to XXXX right before I saw your new message!" in response to my explaining what is broken.

No it didn't... it fixed it in response to my complaints... it doesn't act unless prompted and the last prompt that produced the fix diff was in response to my problem description!

This is the third or fourth instance of this new behaviour blurring what time and agency means.

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@hopeless@mas.to · Apr 11, 2026
@baldur Have you heard of fuzzing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzzing this is very compute and time intensive and works against the code you're attacking. It's not very beautiful, but it surfaces bugs that can't otherwise be found without putting in the work. Why is that? SOTA static analyzers like Coverity are great, and find their own classes of otherwise unfindable bugs. But they only look for what they know. The new AI methods find new problems in old code the other ways don't. It's very scary.
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@hopeless@mas.to · Apr 10, 2026

As the main character of "For All Mankind" says in the new series, "I've been married three times, and if there's one thing I learned: it's that I didn't learn shit".

Current coding assists feel the same, if you work with it through some scenario, there are usually lessons you take away, like banning whatever caused the problem or ensuring next time your will do something before getting bitten.

The LLM just resets to a new context and does whatever sanded the gears last time all over again.

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@hopeless@mas.to · Apr 09, 2026
@eff Good job!
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@hopeless@mas.to · Apr 09, 2026
@baldur I believe it because they have received vuln reports from AI systems these last couple of months that are qualitively different (more scary, in older code) from the last over-a-decade I have been receiving them. In Apr 2026 you have to accept Coding assist AIs and vuln detection AIs work well in a ways they didn't a few months ago. These at least aren't going away even if there's a big correction for the rest.
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@hopeless@mas.to · Apr 08, 2026
@jonny Yeah... my point is... in the era of OpenClaw, it seems none of that affected Anthropic's ability to produce an effective hacking machine, affects their LLM usefulness, affects their profits... or generally matters.
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@hopeless@mas.to · Apr 08, 2026
@jonny It's good that you're taking on board the state of Anthropic's server backend code has nothing to say about the value of their LLM offering.
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@hopeless@mas.to · Apr 08, 2026

Jesus. We certainly have to worry about "end of civilization" due to the US, but it's not what was in the newspapers.

I've written before the step up in bug finding the last weeks is unprecedented. And now:

https://red.anthropic.com/2026/mythos-preview/

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@hopeless@mas.to · Apr 06, 2026

A few months ago it was: "it is evil, because I say so".

Then the focus started to become, "because I am ethical, it's clear to me AI is evil". There were side-quests down "AI is theft", "AI is a plagiarism machine", neither of which match how Apr 2026 coding assists work or consider FOSS as AI learning.

lobste.rs today: "Maintaining LOC is the devil".

It's progress, because it silently acknowledges: AI can produce usable code that does the required job, can ship, and can be maintained.

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@hopeless@mas.to · Apr 01, 2026
@tante ... the scaffolding around a natural language engine isn't going to look like oldstyle heuristic code. That's what all those highly paid "prompt engineers" have been doing. Although it clearly eases the pain for people to come together and ritually denounce AI and all that sail in it, the fact is coding AIs work very well and aren't going anywhere even when the "add clippy to everything" bubble bursts. Just bear in mind it's widely used, but quietly on masto due to all the pitchforks.
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@hopeless@mas.to · Mar 23, 2026
@corbet The kernel is kind of unique though in that it can offer life-changing opportunities to contributors. The vast bulk of other FOSS projects can't. The idea that contributors will stick around or take responsibility for maintaining their work is meaningless. For these less mighty projects, contributors are entirely drive-by and it only happens during the short window the project is on their radar. The project maintainer has to take on responsibility for whatever was offered, AI or not.
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@hopeless@mas.to · Feb 05, 2026
@cas I think the challenge is only people motivated to do particular work, are in the running to do that work. Certainly how you're structured can get in the way of stuff getting done. But a project structure itself won't bring into being motivated people to write and debug code, ensure that current code works well on old, ignored platforms etc. In a company, where you pay, you can command it (+/- people leaving) but in FOSS contribution usually only lasts so long as it feels fulfilling.
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@hopeless@mas.to · Dec 09, 2025
@joepie91 @etsyy @jk @kolya As the golden rule says, "what if everybody coped with feeling gatekept by claiming their complaint was a contribution as valid as anything else?" The project would contain no code, just a list of complaints of its shortcomings, ie, it would be thoroughly worthless. In reality, skilled and motivated people have to eat the opportunity cost to sit there and do actual work, in the first place to make something worth fixing out of the void, and then to fix anything.
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@hopeless@mas.to · Dec 09, 2025
@etsyy @joepie91 @jk @kolya I ask because if you lived this reality you won't try to blow these observations off as 'nonsensical'. "Complaints on the internet" can be very jagged, to the point people kill themselves over what is said by strangers. If the complaints are aimed at something dear to the recipient, it can have significant effects on them (which is why people complain). Maintainers can always hit the stop button to end the pain and give up. Which many do.
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@hopeless@mas.to · Dec 09, 2025
@etsyy @joepie91 @jk @kolya Is it possible you have not experienced running a FOSS project with a large number of users?
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@hopeless@mas.to · Dec 09, 2025
@etsyy @joepie91 @jk @kolya Maintainers do everything in public and their reputation and self-worth is tied up with their project. When they get sometimes very entitled users complaining and demanding work for free, it requires careful handling not to get dragged into more than they can cope with. Which is why it's not uncommon for projects to die from burned out maintainers who also concluded they do not have to do work just because someone wants it.
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@hopeless@mas.to · Dec 09, 2025

@joepie91 @etsyy @jk @kolya

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… and one that often isn’t recognized as such because it’s “not technical” or whatever other gatekeeping nonsense.

This is cope… it’s not recognized as a contribution because if it doesn’t come with a draft of a fix or enough debugging done the maintainer won’t have to burnout on it, it’s a net burden.

Leeches are leeches, me no less than anyone else. It’s part of the gift from the licensing that it’s normal and accepted to take more than you give.

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@hopeless@mas.to · Dec 09, 2025

@joepie91 @etsyy @jk @kolya

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Alternatively: consider that reporting problems (“seeking support”) is also a form of contribution…

Well this is not wrong. However it’s also a burden on the maintainers receiving, processing, replying and then looking into what was reported. I mean they could play with their kids, go for a walk, harvest the fields, talk to the SO or whatever, instead they sit dealing with something the reporter cares about, sometimes for hours or days.

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@hopeless@mas.to · Dec 08, 2025

@mirabilos @kolya @jk

It’s an active endorsement of eso-fascist thoughts.

it cannot be maintained; there’s sufficient studies for that.

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Whoever will do the work must decide if it is maintainable, and currently, I have seen and included worse from humans. It varies case by case.

From your claims about what it produces being plagiarism, I’m afraid it just makes clear you haven’t looked at what these services actually produce in Dec 2025 and don’t know what you’re talking about.

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@hopeless@mas.to · Dec 08, 2025
@etsyy @jk @kolya (2/2) As for AI, there's a mastodon groupthink that it is all garbage. For AI coding use, it can produce usable patches in Dec 2025. FOSS is effectively licensed for AI use. There's no point clutching pearls about training. It needs care are about sharp edges and review, but it's likely to improve gradually in the next years. It's not a silver bullet, but it is a force multiplier for FOSS devs that are not going to get any other form of help.
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@hopeless@mas.to · Dec 08, 2025
@etsyy @jk @kolya (1/2) No. If you want a "weird dynamic", how about "users" that will never contribute feeling they are a higher form of life than the people paying the opportunity cost to do the work they leech off of. Users that feel entitled to support, infrastructure and work for $0. Users who shrug when they read about desperate maintainers and contributors. The code can be duplicated for free, but it's not true each user is free, they bring their own costs on the project.
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@hopeless@mas.to · Dec 07, 2025
@jk @kolya Sure. But to leech something is essentially to spectate on it. You may have rational reasons to make decisions based on what you observe. The project contributors also have rational reasons to decide how to spend their time. And your considerations are of zero interest from their perspective. Large user bases are their own support timesinks and very few users become contributors. If AI is such a death knell, you can always be the one doing the work by hand... right...?
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@hopeless@mas.to · Dec 07, 2025
@jk @kolya If you're consuming the project's work and not contributing anything, that is the dictionary meaning of "leeching". I also leech of hundreds of projects and only contribute to a handful, it's just a statement of fact. However it puts into contrast what you're demanding, which is you only want to leech off the work of an actual human and their time on the planet. If AI patches work and can be maintained, they should be preferred to minimize the cost to actual humans.
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@hopeless@mas.to · Dec 07, 2025
@jk Is the coding AI producing mostly-reasonable and maintainable results? Because the fact you like the results of the project to date, is not worth anything to the project, compared to good patches. Nor is your purity demand for only the contributors' personal hard labour being good enough for you to leech.
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