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Liberalism is right-wing because it supports capitalism. It isn’t the only right-wing ideology, but anyone calling themselves “progressive” that opposes moving on from capitalism to socialism is in fa
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That’s a moot point. I agree capitalism will stop progress. But if these individuals support social progress, even if they incorrectly believe it can be achieved within capitalism, this does not make
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You’re confusing effect with cause, and as a consequence are mis-analyzing the key issues here. Fascism is rising because imperialism is decaying, and austerity is being brought home. It isn’t rising
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I never disagreed with the capitalism problem. It’s at the root and until it’s addressed, it will inevitably lead to ruin.
You won’t get any argument from me there on that one.
But many still think socialism can exist in a regulated capitalist society.
Neither of us thinks so, but I can understand why some do think that’s possible. And I’m not going to criticize them for all the problems that are caused by this when there are other groups at a much greater fault.
Socialism in capitalism has semi worked (let me explain what I mean by “worked”,) at a surface level. And especially looks promising when being viewed remotely.
For instance an American may look at Sweden and say "look how well socialism is working there ".
And it looks like it is working. Free healthcare. Equality. Better educated.
But you and I know it’s unsustainable and will always be in decline because that’s how capitalism works. It demands sacrifice after sacrifice. Profits must continue to increase. Finite resources must be used faster than they can regenerate.
And this of course is not sustainable long term.
But many people don’t see this aspect of things. They just see that things in Sweden look much better than they are here. And they see socialism working. Dare I say “perfected” from the perspective.
Not everyone is capable of following cause and effect long term. Or tracing back problems to their sources.
So. This is getting long but. I study psychology. My area is perception and cognition but I’ve also studied social.
To make a short as point as possible. For a society to exist cohesively, most members need to be “sheep”. It’s the only way they will cooperate and collectively follow rules.
But a society needs people who challenge things. Or progress never happens.
If you have too many of those types, they all think they know best. And they all just fight constantly.
The masses will follow whichever one appeals to their existing ideals the most.
Existing ideals that are a product of the environment they grew up in.
I do think there is a level of personal responsibility here that is real. But at the same time I acknowledge that most people are incapable of starting very far from the cultural ideas they were raised with.
Liberals want a better world. They just can’t let go of capitalism because they were raised in capitalism and they can’t imagine it any other way.
This doesn’t mean they deserve to be lumped in with the anti-social fascist on the right.
They aren’t the same.
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