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Replying to @atax1a@infosec.exchange
@atax1a@infosec.exchange I'm going to assume for i = 1, 2, 3 is not for amusement, but you'd have to change it to for i = 1, 3 which is slightly worse than having to add a 3.
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There are many criticism of Go to make, but I never like how it uses pointer syntax and allows for return a pointer to a local allocation such as: func f() *T { retunr &T{} } That just makes my dangling pointer detector glitch out.
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Replying to @typeswitch@gamedev.lgbt
@typeswitch@gamedev.lgbt I think this is more terrifying conceptually than if you simply die.
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Me: english spelling is to messy and has to many edge cases. Me: the plural of context is now contices
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yeah, and? @andnull@social.nouveau.community · Jul 31, 2026
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Since it's crossed my feed a few times, for those that care, Cagire is stealthing slop. It hides all it's Claude crap via the .gitignore. It's another slop object hitting the catlang/stacklang space. https://git.raphaelforment.fr/BuboBubo/Cagire/src/branch/main/.gitignore#L8
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The and Propaganda Division is happy to present a Juxta button. (scaled down version at the link) #Catlangs
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It's been a year and still crickets. I imagine it is safe to assume this will be the status quo for another year. https://itch.io/updates/update-on-nsfw-content
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yeah, and? @andnull@social.nouveau.community · Jul 27, 2026
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Replying to @atax1a@infosec.exchange
@atax1a@infosec.exchange Nope, seems to still give a "It is applied to too many arguments" error.
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yeah, and? @andnull@social.nouveau.community · Jul 27, 2026
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Heart breaking: creature discovers OCaml cannot do the DSL trick as well as Lua. when_ returns a record with otherwise as a field. However, you have to wrap the call with parens cause OCaml's syntax doesn't allow f "foo" .bar "baz" (it has to be (f "foo") .bar "baz" as far as we can tell) let cond = (when_ coin [ say "Hello, World!" ; say "Coin was heads!" ]) .otherwise [ say "Hello, World!" ; say "Coin was tails!" ]
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yeah, and? @andnull@social.nouveau.community · Jul 27, 2026
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Omg, is the chromebook plague on education actually ending? I would love nothing more than School Issued Chromebooks to be a relic of the past and regarded as the biggest waste of public money on private interest in the history of the world.
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yeah, and? @andnull@social.nouveau.community · Jul 26, 2026
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Replying to @aks@scalie.zone
@aks@scalie.zone People can't imagine communities that don't just go along with whatever the bullshit of the day is. I dealt with basically the same about ~month of whinging and "buh buh buh muh hard work, muh dream project".
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Programming Language Idea: it's coded in the social tension of awkward eye contact in public. #PLIdea
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People really cannot understand that "every hobby space operates like an extension of the workplace" is a massive problem for hobbyist software. The number one tread we see from LLM users is a conflation of something you do for your own passions and something you are doing for employment or enterprise (current or hypthetical). We actively shape the culture of the concatenative programming discord away from it. If there is some practice you don't want to do, then don't. If you have a project that isn't fun anymore, then stop. It's clear that profession practices have not made being a programmer better nor has it lead to a culture that produces better software.
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Replying to @atax1a@infosec.exchange
@atax1a@infosec.exchange My retort to people saying "LLMs can write test for you is" a simple "if you don't want to write test then don't? Like, you are still writing them and still have to deal with them, just now it's indirect and through a shitty interface."
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@atax1a@infosec.exchange and and and and and and and
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Lua does not offer built-in support for object-oriented programming of any kind. — The Playdate SDK for Lua I wish people that don't know Lua nor prototype-based OOP would stop writing sentence optimized to annoy me.
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I wish file systems let me apply custom ordering to my files instead of just autosorting by some attribute. I would like to place them in an order that feels right narratively.
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yeah, and? @andnull@social.nouveau.community · Jul 21, 2026
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you ever just have the urge to rip a USB out while doing a big write to it? Just to corrupt some data and feel alive?
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yeah, and? @andnull@social.nouveau.community · Jul 20, 2026
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@atax1a@infosec.exchange Tho, we ended up diving down the catlang side instead of the purely functional side. The catlang collective is a lot more fun.
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Replying to @atax1a@infosec.exchange
@atax1a@infosec.exchange A good mix. I know our wackiest split was Factor, Crystal, and Idris (unbelievably). Factor and Idris happened simultaneously cause Edwin and John both put out demos showing the interactive features of both.
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yeah, and? @andnull@social.nouveau.community · Jul 18, 2026
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If your gender was tax refundable how much I would be getting back claiming it on my taxes?
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You can imagine walking away from Omelas all you want, but if you couldn't imagine it before the author has to make it "believable" for you and you can't imagine where those that walk away will go, then there is no point in walking away. You'll just make another place you can believe in again. It certainly won't be better if events there don't take COVID percausions.
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yeah, and? @andnull@social.nouveau.community · Jul 14, 2026
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Programming Language Idea: A garbage collected programming language, but your program's actual logic and behavior exist within the stopped world of the GC pauses. The program you write simple exist to generate garbage to execute the intended logic. #PLIdea
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yeah, and? @andnull@social.nouveau.community · Jul 12, 2026
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Mutate into the abyss and the abyss mutates back at you.
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yeah, and? @andnull@social.nouveau.community · Jul 11, 2026
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Replying to @lichendust@sunny.garden
@lichendust@sunny.garden I adore
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yeah, and? @andnull@social.nouveau.community · Jul 10, 2026
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meta meme about slop Hover or focus to reveal Sensitive
The modern cycle of pain
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Boosted by Furbland's Very Family-Friendly Account™ @GroupNebula563@mastodon.social
Replying to @a@pdx.social
@a@pdx.social @atax1a@infosec.exchange This will pair well with my stance on AI https://www.sheeeeeeeep.art/my-stance-on-ai.html
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Don't Parser nor validate, just reject all strings out of pure spire for string processing.
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Boosted by Furbland's Very Value = 71 Account™ @GroupNebula563@mastodon.social
dropping into bed, added a bleats page for miscellaneous writing which might happen to look like blogging. We've become drunk off the power of writing xml files. https://www.sheeeeeeeep.art/bleats.html
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yeah, and? @andnull@social.nouveau.community · Jul 05, 2026
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suboosting, AI Hover or focus to reveal Sensitive
watching the "AI skeptic that uses AI models to understand there ability" ot "AI booster" pipeline in realtime sure is something. Feels weirdly identical to the TERF/MAGA pipeline where a person "facts and logics" themselves into deeper levels of bullshit. At each level, they burn social connections only leaving increasingly toxic individuals around them. Eventually they are too deep in the shit and only have rancid friends and will probably never dig themselves out of that hole.
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It's kinda fucked up how American culture has engrained the idea that "long breaks and vaccations" are childish things that only children need.
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The actual worse thing about LLMs is when someone produces an actual feat of passion, if I have no repertoire with the person, I immediately distrust it.
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Programming language idea: butter #PLIdea
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@atax1a@infosec.exchange The CBT instruction
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Boosted by disregard Joe Groff @joe@f.duriansoftware.com
I've uploaded the processed archive the old yahoo-based catlang mailing list. This should be every message in hopefully a correct (enough) order. https://www.sheeeeeeeep.art/catlang-mailing-list-archive.html #Catlangs
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Replying to @slava@mathstodon.xyz
@slava@mathstodon.xyz Will recommend when it goes into effect a solid week break from all social media channels after cleaning up shop.
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Rather iratated that John and Erg (the current factor maintainers) are vibecoding all over factor quietly doing it off branch and in ways that keep the main commit history clean of Claude co-authored commits. They had to roll back a massive vibecoded PR to the core VM. That code always felt super frail whenever I dug into the VM, I would not be prancing around with buckshot :stacky_oof: Considering that mess of a PR happened a few months before the Zig VM would appear :stacky_oof:
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We are so not in the mood to figure out why the fuck our controller is suddenly moving our fcuking mouse around :stacky_annoyed:

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Really gotta assembly my website todo list, pick some days, and just iron out all my backlog tickets. Make some little tools for doing a gallery how I want it, a comic paginator, and also a quick way to make game pages.

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Why is everyone talking about apples? Is it apple pie day? Anti-doctor day? I personally prefer nectarines.

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Our actual struggle with statically typed languages is how we will atomize every piece of data into the smallest indivisible type, but then have no means to compose it back together. Or if you can compose it back together, you can't decompose or reshape it later.

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Programming Language Idea: The language has first class support for permutational prose. #PLIdea
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I won't lie, the shift from "free software is something you just put out into the world and maybe you get emailed patches" to "free software is an open collaborative community with infinite real-time feedback and obligation for supporting said software" has gotta be the greatest design shift in terms of capital's ability to exploit free labor and entrapping people in projects that have taken own their own lives
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OCaml implies the existence of other artiodactyla themed object-oriented MLs such as OSheep
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@tombofnull@voidwood.online good omen
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Sometimes the complaints about OCaml sound funny to our ears, but that is largely because they are being made to a creature which has never liked truncating love.graphics.* into something like lg.* and has little experience in languages where you dont do module.submodule.function all the time.
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Replying to @neauoire@merveilles.town
@neauoire@merveilles.town I might have to play around with Hershey fonts while I'm in office. This seems prefect for the noisy jam to do on-the-fly text distortion and interpolation. I kinda wonder if it's what Ompuco has used in some of his demo?
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New catlang post to lobsters but the server for the blog is chugging :stacky_ohno:
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