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> Her users are willing to pay for that.
145 active users
Cloud Island is currently running across 8 virtual machines in the Catalyst Cloud:
2x webservers
1x Sidekiq server
1x Maintenance and Monitoring server
1x Redis server (used by Sidekiq for process handling)
1x Search server (used for you to do searching)
1x Postgres server (used to store everything)
1x Files server, used to serve media files. (Deprecated, to be removed)
Meanwhile:
https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2017/04/scaling-mastodon/
"What it takes to house 43,000 users"
2x baremetal C2M (8 cores,16GB RAM) servers:
- 1 running PostgreSQL (with pgBouncer on top) and Redis
- 1 running 4x Sidekiq processes between 10–25 threads each
6x baremetal C2S (4 cores, 8GB RAM) servers:
- 2 running Puma (8x workers, 2x threads each), Sidekiq (10 threads), streaming API
- 1 running Nginx load balancer, Puma (8x workers, 2x threads each, Sidekiq (2 threads), streaming API
2 running Sidekiq (20 threads)
- 1 running Minio for file storage with a 150GB volume
Also given that some people host 10k-users servers on a single VPS that tells me that you probably don't normally need that much hardware.
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Veticia Misumena 🕷️🌺
@Veticia@eldritch.cafe
Spider Queen with severe depression and arachnophobia (please CW your spiders!). I like demons dearly. My interests involve mostly creepy and wholesome stuff. There is no in-between. I've also picked an interest in technical stuff and anime-style drawings.
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Veticia Misumena 🕷️🌺
@Veticia@eldritch.cafe
Spider Queen with severe depression and arachnophobia (please CW your spiders!). I like demons dearly. My interests involve mostly creepy and wholesome stuff. There is no in-between. I've also picked an interest in technical stuff and anime-style drawings.
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Veticia Misumena 🕷️🌺
@Veticia@eldritch.cafe
Spider Queen with severe depression and arachnophobia (please CW your spiders!). I like demons dearly. My interests involve mostly creepy and wholesome stuff. There is no in-between. I've also picked an interest in technical stuff and anime-style drawings.
eldritch.cafe
Veticia Misumena 🕷️🌺
@Veticia@eldritch.cafe
Spider Queen with severe depression and arachnophobia (please CW your spiders!). I like demons dearly. My interests involve mostly creepy and wholesome stuff. There is no in-between. I've also picked an interest in technical stuff and anime-style drawings.
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Dec 02, 2022
@chopsstephens @rastilin @aurynn @xssfox
Oh, I don't have anything to criticise Audrynn for. Her setup looks pretty nice actually.
But I also don't necessarily see a single machine setup to be inherently worse. Aurynn's setup currently works on 8 machines, each with its own distinct role. That's 8 points of failure. If one of them dies of if connection breaks between them, all of them can stop working (especially if that hits the database one). It's nice if someone's dealing with redundancy for you, but you have to trust them to do it right.
As for my setup, I can just throw those disks to another machine (I still have a few laying around) and it'll most likely keep working without changing anything.
But I have to agree, sometimes it's just better to pay someone else to deal with all of that for you. (Unless when it's too expensive to justify the cost.) But since Aurynn instance is a paid one I guess she can figure something out. She does look like a smart one.
Oh, I don't have anything to criticise Audrynn for. Her setup looks pretty nice actually.
But I also don't necessarily see a single machine setup to be inherently worse. Aurynn's setup currently works on 8 machines, each with its own distinct role. That's 8 points of failure. If one of them dies of if connection breaks between them, all of them can stop working (especially if that hits the database one). It's nice if someone's dealing with redundancy for you, but you have to trust them to do it right.
As for my setup, I can just throw those disks to another machine (I still have a few laying around) and it'll most likely keep working without changing anything.
But I have to agree, sometimes it's just better to pay someone else to deal with all of that for you. (Unless when it's too expensive to justify the cost.) But since Aurynn instance is a paid one I guess she can figure something out. She does look like a smart one.
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Veticia Misumena 🕷️🌺
@Veticia@eldritch.cafe
Spider Queen with severe depression and arachnophobia (please CW your spiders!). I like demons dearly. My interests involve mostly creepy and wholesome stuff. There is no in-between. I've also picked an interest in technical stuff and anime-style drawings.
eldritch.cafe
Veticia Misumena 🕷️🌺
@Veticia@eldritch.cafe
Spider Queen with severe depression and arachnophobia (please CW your spiders!). I like demons dearly. My interests involve mostly creepy and wholesome stuff. There is no in-between. I've also picked an interest in technical stuff and anime-style drawings.
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@chopsstephens @rastilin @aurynn @xssfox
For redundancy I have every disk in raid 1 (with daily/weekly offsite backup) and it has 2 power supplies connected to a relatively big ups (it can take a few hours). As for internet I only had to deal with outages a few times in the last few years. I probably could get another connection from another provider, but I don't think it would help much. That one time someone cut the fiber, internet was down in entire city, so I guess all of them share a single point of failure anyway.
For redundancy I have every disk in raid 1 (with daily/weekly offsite backup) and it has 2 power supplies connected to a relatively big ups (it can take a few hours). As for internet I only had to deal with outages a few times in the last few years. I probably could get another connection from another provider, but I don't think it would help much. That one time someone cut the fiber, internet was down in entire city, so I guess all of them share a single point of failure anyway.
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Veticia Misumena 🕷️🌺
@Veticia@eldritch.cafe
Spider Queen with severe depression and arachnophobia (please CW your spiders!). I like demons dearly. My interests involve mostly creepy and wholesome stuff. There is no in-between. I've also picked an interest in technical stuff and anime-style drawings.
eldritch.cafe
Veticia Misumena 🕷️🌺
@Veticia@eldritch.cafe
Spider Queen with severe depression and arachnophobia (please CW your spiders!). I like demons dearly. My interests involve mostly creepy and wholesome stuff. There is no in-between. I've also picked an interest in technical stuff and anime-style drawings.
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Veticia Misumena 🕷️🌺
@Veticia@eldritch.cafe
Spider Queen with severe depression and arachnophobia (please CW your spiders!). I like demons dearly. My interests involve mostly creepy and wholesome stuff. There is no in-between. I've also picked an interest in technical stuff and anime-style drawings.
eldritch.cafe
Veticia Misumena 🕷️🌺
@Veticia@eldritch.cafe
Spider Queen with severe depression and arachnophobia (please CW your spiders!). I like demons dearly. My interests involve mostly creepy and wholesome stuff. There is no in-between. I've also picked an interest in technical stuff and anime-style drawings.
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@aurynn @rbairwell @rastilin @xssfox
I did not have to deal with a rack mounted 48 cores 1TB ram type of machine, that's correct. Because I thankfully never had to. I usually run my servers on my old desktops I've replaced. My current one I've downgraded to an intel atom based decommissioned 1U server I got for free (saved from a landfill; downgraded to it to lower the power bills). Works perfectly fine on my home internet. I just had to script a cloudflare dns to go around my dynamic ip (updating cloudflate takes effect immediately so I don't have to wait for a dns'es to update; it prevents downtime).
I did not have to deal with a rack mounted 48 cores 1TB ram type of machine, that's correct. Because I thankfully never had to. I usually run my servers on my old desktops I've replaced. My current one I've downgraded to an intel atom based decommissioned 1U server I got for free (saved from a landfill; downgraded to it to lower the power bills). Works perfectly fine on my home internet. I just had to script a cloudflare dns to go around my dynamic ip (updating cloudflate takes effect immediately so I don't have to wait for a dns'es to update; it prevents downtime).
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Veticia Misumena 🕷️🌺
@Veticia@eldritch.cafe
Spider Queen with severe depression and arachnophobia (please CW your spiders!). I like demons dearly. My interests involve mostly creepy and wholesome stuff. There is no in-between. I've also picked an interest in technical stuff and anime-style drawings.
eldritch.cafe
Veticia Misumena 🕷️🌺
@Veticia@eldritch.cafe
Spider Queen with severe depression and arachnophobia (please CW your spiders!). I like demons dearly. My interests involve mostly creepy and wholesome stuff. There is no in-between. I've also picked an interest in technical stuff and anime-style drawings.
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@aurynn @rbairwell @rastilin @xssfox
I think the problems you describe are related to rather big scale servers. People run mastodons on raspberry pies. I don't think what we're talking about here is a $50k problem.
But let me go back to the international traffic. Is using VPN common in NZ? To pretend all traffic is local? How big of a difference in price are we talking about?
I think the problems you describe are related to rather big scale servers. People run mastodons on raspberry pies. I don't think what we're talking about here is a $50k problem.
But let me go back to the international traffic. Is using VPN common in NZ? To pretend all traffic is local? How big of a difference in price are we talking about?
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Veticia Misumena 🕷️🌺
@Veticia@eldritch.cafe
Spider Queen with severe depression and arachnophobia (please CW your spiders!). I like demons dearly. My interests involve mostly creepy and wholesome stuff. There is no in-between. I've also picked an interest in technical stuff and anime-style drawings.
eldritch.cafe
Veticia Misumena 🕷️🌺
@Veticia@eldritch.cafe
Spider Queen with severe depression and arachnophobia (please CW your spiders!). I like demons dearly. My interests involve mostly creepy and wholesome stuff. There is no in-between. I've also picked an interest in technical stuff and anime-style drawings.
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@aurynn @rbairwell @rastilin @xssfox
Well, valid point to take. On the other hand, you can argue that as long as you don't pay them and use their infrastructure for free, you're harming them by using up their resources.
Well, valid point to take. On the other hand, you can argue that as long as you don't pay them and use their infrastructure for free, you're harming them by using up their resources.
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Veticia Misumena 🕷️🌺
@Veticia@eldritch.cafe
Spider Queen with severe depression and arachnophobia (please CW your spiders!). I like demons dearly. My interests involve mostly creepy and wholesome stuff. There is no in-between. I've also picked an interest in technical stuff and anime-style drawings.
eldritch.cafe
Veticia Misumena 🕷️🌺
@Veticia@eldritch.cafe
Spider Queen with severe depression and arachnophobia (please CW your spiders!). I like demons dearly. My interests involve mostly creepy and wholesome stuff. There is no in-between. I've also picked an interest in technical stuff and anime-style drawings.
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@aurynn @rbairwell @rastilin @xssfox
You're talking about that time Cloudflare shielded neo-nazi website on the principle that they provide infrastructure and are not censors and therefore are on a moral obligation to not interfere.
Which they later retracted and kicked them out anyway.
Or are you talking about another incident?
You're talking about that time Cloudflare shielded neo-nazi website on the principle that they provide infrastructure and are not censors and therefore are on a moral obligation to not interfere.
Which they later retracted and kicked them out anyway.
Or are you talking about another incident?
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Veticia Misumena 🕷️🌺
@Veticia@eldritch.cafe
Spider Queen with severe depression and arachnophobia (please CW your spiders!). I like demons dearly. My interests involve mostly creepy and wholesome stuff. There is no in-between. I've also picked an interest in technical stuff and anime-style drawings.
eldritch.cafe
Veticia Misumena 🕷️🌺
@Veticia@eldritch.cafe
Spider Queen with severe depression and arachnophobia (please CW your spiders!). I like demons dearly. My interests involve mostly creepy and wholesome stuff. There is no in-between. I've also picked an interest in technical stuff and anime-style drawings.
eldritch.cafe
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@rbairwell @rastilin @xssfox @aurynn
Wait, wait, wait... You pay different rates for domestic and international traffic?! 🤯
Wait, wait, wait... You pay different rates for domestic and international traffic?! 🤯
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Veticia Misumena 🕷️🌺
@Veticia@eldritch.cafe
Spider Queen with severe depression and arachnophobia (please CW your spiders!). I like demons dearly. My interests involve mostly creepy and wholesome stuff. There is no in-between. I've also picked an interest in technical stuff and anime-style drawings.
eldritch.cafe
Veticia Misumena 🕷️🌺
@Veticia@eldritch.cafe
Spider Queen with severe depression and arachnophobia (please CW your spiders!). I like demons dearly. My interests involve mostly creepy and wholesome stuff. There is no in-between. I've also picked an interest in technical stuff and anime-style drawings.
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