Steven Bell 
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Steven Bell
@StevenB@podcastindex.social
Bug Reports Here: https:// t.me/+NCqewc8q0eU4NzYx https:// getalby.com/p/steven Artisanal Coder. You may know me from such apps as: LNBeats, The Split Kit, Sovereign Feeds, Music Side Project, CurioCaster, & TranscriptSearchTool
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Steven Bell
@StevenB@podcastindex.social
Bug Reports Here: https:// t.me/+NCqewc8q0eU4NzYx https:// getalby.com/p/steven Artisanal Coder. You may know me from such apps as: LNBeats, The Split Kit, Sovereign Feeds, Music Side Project, CurioCaster, & TranscriptSearchTool
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Nov 07, 2025
@merryoscar @alecksgates @ericpp @francosolerio @js
Am I missing some steps on how the podcaster fetches/sees all of their metadata?
1. Listener authorizes Boostagram
2. App builds metadata, stores it in a database, and creates url that returns metadata
3. App connects to listeners wallet, and sends payment with metadata url in the message
4. Wallet keeps list of payment urls like Alby does
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Steven Bell
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Bug Reports Here: https:// t.me/+NCqewc8q0eU4NzYx https:// getalby.com/p/steven Artisanal Coder. You may know me from such apps as: LNBeats, The Split Kit, Sovereign Feeds, Music Side Project, CurioCaster, & TranscriptSearchTool
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Steven Bell
@StevenB@podcastindex.social
Bug Reports Here: https:// t.me/+NCqewc8q0eU4NzYx https:// getalby.com/p/steven Artisanal Coder. You may know me from such apps as: LNBeats, The Split Kit, Sovereign Feeds, Music Side Project, CurioCaster, & TranscriptSearchTool
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Nov 07, 2025
@merryoscar @ChadF @js @francosolerio
Isn't AlbyHub a dedicated server to receive from podcast apps?
This seems like we're once again putting all the metadata storage on the wallets, which keysend already does.
If we're having to rely on wallets playing nice, I'm not sure what this buys us.
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Steven Bell
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Bug Reports Here: https:// t.me/+NCqewc8q0eU4NzYx https:// getalby.com/p/steven Artisanal Coder. You may know me from such apps as: LNBeats, The Split Kit, Sovereign Feeds, Music Side Project, CurioCaster, & TranscriptSearchTool
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Steven Bell
@StevenB@podcastindex.social
Bug Reports Here: https:// t.me/+NCqewc8q0eU4NzYx https:// getalby.com/p/steven Artisanal Coder. You may know me from such apps as: LNBeats, The Split Kit, Sovereign Feeds, Music Side Project, CurioCaster, & TranscriptSearchTool
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Nov 07, 2025
@merryoscar @ChadF @js @francosolerio
Does clickable even really matter? It's not like the podcaster is going to be clicking every single payment that comes in, this will ultimately be handled by a program that fetches and consolidates the payment data from all the apps.
And if they need a program that does all of that, then they'll need a server, at which point, let's cut the fetching step out and have the apps send it straight to the server.
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Steven Bell
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Bug Reports Here: https:// t.me/+NCqewc8q0eU4NzYx https:// getalby.com/p/steven Artisanal Coder. You may know me from such apps as: LNBeats, The Split Kit, Sovereign Feeds, Music Side Project, CurioCaster, & TranscriptSearchTool
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Steven Bell
@StevenB@podcastindex.social
Bug Reports Here: https:// t.me/+NCqewc8q0eU4NzYx https:// getalby.com/p/steven Artisanal Coder. You may know me from such apps as: LNBeats, The Split Kit, Sovereign Feeds, Music Side Project, CurioCaster, & TranscriptSearchTool
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Nov 07, 2025
@merryoscar @ericpp @francosolerio @alecksgates
But Alby already supports keysend, so Alby supporting it doesn't buy us anything.
Since the goal seems to be easy wallets, would CashApp and Strike support it is the bigger question?
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Bug Reports Here: https:// t.me/+NCqewc8q0eU4NzYx https:// getalby.com/p/steven Artisanal Coder. You may know me from such apps as: LNBeats, The Split Kit, Sovereign Feeds, Music Side Project, CurioCaster, & TranscriptSearchTool
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Steven Bell
@StevenB@podcastindex.social
Bug Reports Here: https:// t.me/+NCqewc8q0eU4NzYx https:// getalby.com/p/steven Artisanal Coder. You may know me from such apps as: LNBeats, The Split Kit, Sovereign Feeds, Music Side Project, CurioCaster, & TranscriptSearchTool
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Nov 07, 2025
@merryoscar @ericpp @francosolerio @alecksgates
I'd love for the wallet services to support this, but given their history of support with keysend, I'm skeptical.
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Bug Reports Here: https:// t.me/+NCqewc8q0eU4NzYx https:// getalby.com/p/steven Artisanal Coder. You may know me from such apps as: LNBeats, The Split Kit, Sovereign Feeds, Music Side Project, CurioCaster, & TranscriptSearchTool
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Steven Bell
@StevenB@podcastindex.social
Bug Reports Here: https:// t.me/+NCqewc8q0eU4NzYx https:// getalby.com/p/steven Artisanal Coder. You may know me from such apps as: LNBeats, The Split Kit, Sovereign Feeds, Music Side Project, CurioCaster, & TranscriptSearchTool
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Nov 07, 2025
@merryoscar @francosolerio
I'm not going to be able to store metadata for a podcaster's service of choice to fetch from. I suspect others won't either. This means that any boostagrams from apps that don't have a back end simply get missed.
If Fountain does do an API as a stop gap, I'll happily sign up for an API key and send the metadata, but maintaining a database for metadata isn't something I'm able to do right now.
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Bug Reports Here: https:// t.me/+NCqewc8q0eU4NzYx https:// getalby.com/p/steven Artisanal Coder. You may know me from such apps as: LNBeats, The Split Kit, Sovereign Feeds, Music Side Project, CurioCaster, & TranscriptSearchTool
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Steven Bell
@StevenB@podcastindex.social
Bug Reports Here: https:// t.me/+NCqewc8q0eU4NzYx https:// getalby.com/p/steven Artisanal Coder. You may know me from such apps as: LNBeats, The Split Kit, Sovereign Feeds, Music Side Project, CurioCaster, & TranscriptSearchTool
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Nov 07, 2025
@merryoscar @francosolerio
I'm not sure we're particularly concerned with self-hosters much. Most people don't self-host, aren't interested in it, and those that do are already mostly tech savvy and end up running their own servers anyway.
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Steven Bell
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Bug Reports Here: https:// t.me/+NCqewc8q0eU4NzYx https:// getalby.com/p/steven Artisanal Coder. You may know me from such apps as: LNBeats, The Split Kit, Sovereign Feeds, Music Side Project, CurioCaster, & TranscriptSearchTool
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Steven Bell
@StevenB@podcastindex.social
Bug Reports Here: https:// t.me/+NCqewc8q0eU4NzYx https:// getalby.com/p/steven Artisanal Coder. You may know me from such apps as: LNBeats, The Split Kit, Sovereign Feeds, Music Side Project, CurioCaster, & TranscriptSearchTool
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Nov 07, 2025
@merryoscar @francosolerio
If Fountain has an API, and especially if it's in the feed, I'll be one of the first ones to start sending metadata your way.
I'm not able to host it on my own database, but would be more than happy to forward it along to a metadata service.
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Steven Bell
@StevenB@podcastindex.social
Bug Reports Here: https:// t.me/+NCqewc8q0eU4NzYx https:// getalby.com/p/steven Artisanal Coder. You may know me from such apps as: LNBeats, The Split Kit, Sovereign Feeds, Music Side Project, CurioCaster, & TranscriptSearchTool
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Steven Bell
@StevenB@podcastindex.social
Bug Reports Here: https:// t.me/+NCqewc8q0eU4NzYx https:// getalby.com/p/steven Artisanal Coder. You may know me from such apps as: LNBeats, The Split Kit, Sovereign Feeds, Music Side Project, CurioCaster, & TranscriptSearchTool
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Nov 07, 2025
@merryoscar @francosolerio
There is a third way.
That host stores the metadata. Each app sends it to the host API found in the feed.
This works well for Fountain as a business. Since you're willing to store metadata, all the apps send it to your API, and if someone wants access to their metadata, they choose a host like Fountain that gives them that data. More people choose Fountain as a host because you offer more services.
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Bug Reports Here: https:// t.me/+NCqewc8q0eU4NzYx https:// getalby.com/p/steven Artisanal Coder. You may know me from such apps as: LNBeats, The Split Kit, Sovereign Feeds, Music Side Project, CurioCaster, & TranscriptSearchTool
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Steven Bell
@StevenB@podcastindex.social
Bug Reports Here: https:// t.me/+NCqewc8q0eU4NzYx https:// getalby.com/p/steven Artisanal Coder. You may know me from such apps as: LNBeats, The Split Kit, Sovereign Feeds, Music Side Project, CurioCaster, & TranscriptSearchTool
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Nov 07, 2025
@merryoscar @francosolerio
So if the listener sends a lunrlp Boost, how does the wallet get the metadata from the app? What will the app have to do to make all of this work?
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Bug Reports Here: https:// t.me/+NCqewc8q0eU4NzYx https:// getalby.com/p/steven Artisanal Coder. You may know me from such apps as: LNBeats, The Split Kit, Sovereign Feeds, Music Side Project, CurioCaster, & TranscriptSearchTool
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Steven Bell
@StevenB@podcastindex.social
Bug Reports Here: https:// t.me/+NCqewc8q0eU4NzYx https:// getalby.com/p/steven Artisanal Coder. You may know me from such apps as: LNBeats, The Split Kit, Sovereign Feeds, Music Side Project, CurioCaster, & TranscriptSearchTool
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Nov 07, 2025
@merryoscar
I guess this becomes a question of who's responsible for hosting/storing a podcaster's metadata, the podcaster/host or each app?
Being both a host and app company, this works for you, but it won't work for me or @francosolerio (who I don't think runs a backend)
(I hope this doesn't come across as confrontational, more just pointing out a concern. I'm glad you guys are working on a solution.)
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Steven Bell
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Bug Reports Here: https:// t.me/+NCqewc8q0eU4NzYx https:// getalby.com/p/steven Artisanal Coder. You may know me from such apps as: LNBeats, The Split Kit, Sovereign Feeds, Music Side Project, CurioCaster, & TranscriptSearchTool
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Steven Bell
@StevenB@podcastindex.social
Bug Reports Here: https:// t.me/+NCqewc8q0eU4NzYx https:// getalby.com/p/steven Artisanal Coder. You may know me from such apps as: LNBeats, The Split Kit, Sovereign Feeds, Music Side Project, CurioCaster, & TranscriptSearchTool
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Nov 07, 2025
@merryoscar @dovydas
With this solution, will the apps be expected to maintain a database and schema for podcasters to use to fetch their metadata?
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