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Solarpunk: The Genre That Dares to Dream the World Repaired
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ProdigalFrog
@ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net · Apr 05

This video does a great job explaining the practical usefulness of the 'Collective dreaming' that Solarpunk provides. In short, it gives us a collective goal to aim toward, which then prompts us to figure out what the best way of achieving that goal is with the tools at hand.

In that way, I would put forward that Solarpunk provides a useful framework to address the issues we face today. At its core it encourages decentralized grassroots community building to address problems (the 'punk' part), which is generally more effective than spinning our collective wheels trying to reform political machinery that is fully corporate captured, and I would consider a form of prefiguration.

And the 'Solar' part encourages adopting practical and ecological technology to address the issue of our planet becoming uninhabitable from our current political and economic models; adopting renewable energy (which often scales down really well, helping out the decentralized part), viewing a healthy ecology as essential infrastructure to a prosperous existence, stopping consumerism with Degrowth, etc.

In practice, Solarpunk basically lets us collectively see a plausible outcome if we embraced Eco-Anarchism (basically combining what Catalonia was able to achieve in the 30's, along with a distinct focus on restoring our planet's ecosystems).

That it isn't some impractical sci-fi concept needing yet to be invented tech, but instead an achievable goal even with our existing technology, is a very encouraging and motivating concept, IMO.

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Tiresia
@Tiresia@slrpnk.net · Apr 05
I see it as a counter to capitalist realism. It's a world that could have been if the 20th century had been spent building for the future, proof that a better world is possible not just morally but in terms of the personal prosperity and happiness of literally everyone. It's fuel for rage at our lost potential. But it's also a call for us to be the change we want to see. Even if we can't manage a solarpunk future in the next century or two amidst all the climate catastrophes, we can help the millions or perhaps billions of people that make it through get as close as we can get them.
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SlowBurn
@SlowBurn@slrpnk.net · Apr 06
If you think of solarpunk as a future utopia that could (or could have) existed, that sounds about right. If you think of it as attitudes/ways of life people can and do hold and act on, right now and whenever, whether we are pre-, post-, or during apocalypse, then its heft becomes clearer. For me the centers are the centering of and working cooperatively with life (including us human beans), the kind of social awareness and care that tends to go along with that, and appropriate tech (generally seeking/preferencing simplest thing that could work, most local, understandable & repairable. but not to the point of shooting ourselves in the foot).
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poVoq
@poVoq@slrpnk.net · Apr 05
For some? 🤷 And you seem to imply that this would be bad?
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Nakedmole
@Nacktmull@lemmy.world · Apr 05
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poVoq
@poVoq@slrpnk.net · Apr 05
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For some people it is. But I think you are making a category error in thinking that a concept that is primarily ment to open the imagination and move the overton window would lend itself as an activist movement. It is supplementary to one though: https://wiki.slrpnk.net/articles:infrapolitics
articles:infrapolitics [SLRPNK]
https://wiki.slrpnk.net/articles:infrapolitics
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Nakedmole
@Nacktmull@lemmy.world · Apr 05
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You have a valid argument, maybe I am just too depressed and burned out to still see the positive.
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Tinker ☀️
@tinker@infosec.exchange · Apr 06

@Nacktmull@lemmy.world @poVoq@slrpnk.net - "just". Solarpunk absolutely is a coping strategy.

That's the whole point.

It's a way to cope with this bullshit and get through it.

- cope /kōp/ (intransitive verb)
To contend with difficulties and act to overcome them

How would (or how do) *you* deal with a terrible world?

I very specifically:
- Imagine what a better world could be.
- Describe and discuss with others what a better world could and should be. Giving my ideas and hearing their's. Disagreeing with methods but agreeing on the overall goal to fight and strive for that better world
- Actively work towards that better world
- Comfort and support those who are working towards that better world
- Comfort and support those who are hurt by the current world
- Receive comfort and support from others so I can get through this current world

You're damned right it's a coping strategy.

What is there to do besides cope?
- Despair
- Give up and be destroyed
- Join the oppressors with a hope to not be destroyed and still be destroyed

Or... as you seem to be doing...

Lash out, not at the oppressors, but at those holding on to hope and those who are fighting the oppressors?

That is a thing you can do, certainly. And I bet it feels cathartic - spreading your disappointment and fear onto those who would have hope and find ways to quell their fear.

Please stop.

We are finding ways to cope. Dealing with the actual bad is bad enough. Dealing with folks like you who get in the way and bring others down makes it incredibly more difficult.

"just" a coping strategy.

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Andy Dearden
@AndyDearden@mastodon.green · Apr 06
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@tinker@infosec.exchange @Nacktmull@lemmy.world @poVoq@slrpnk.net despair is a luxury. Hope is a discipline.

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viq
@viq@social.hackerspace.pl · Apr 06
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@tinker@infosec.exchange
I shared your post, and in response I got a snippet from https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/208840291-the-serviceberry.
I'll try to type it up in following posts
@poVoq@slrpnk.net

The Serviceberry: Abundance and Reciprocity in the Natu…
The Serviceberry: Abundance and Reciprocity in the Natu…
From the #1 New York Times bestselling author of Braidi…
https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/208840291-the-serviceberry
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viq
@viq@social.hackerspace.pl · Apr 06
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As a botanist, I know that there is guidance from the world of fields and forests. Plant communities are changing and replacing one another all of the time, in a dynamic mosaic we know as ecological succession. Far from the stereotype of the “forest primeval,” plant communities are constantly in flux. From a bird’s-eye view, the “unbroken forest” is in fact a patchwork of stands of different ages and experience. [1/n]

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viq
@viq@social.hackerspace.pl · Apr 06
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Fires, landslides, floods, windstorms, outbreaks of insects, disease, and disasters of human origin disrupt the green blanket in unpredictable ways—and yet with a somewhat predictable response. Oftentimes a major disturbance that clears the former forest creates a gap, with full sun, disturbed soil, and plenty of resources, since the previous inhabitants are now gone. [2/n]

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viq
@viq@social.hackerspace.pl · Apr 06
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Such places are colonized by fast-growing species in high density, trying to take advantage of the transitory conditions. These pioneer species are opportunists, with traits that consume resources, crowd out others, and reproduce like crazy. It’s all “me, me, me,” investing only in their own exponential growth with no regard for the future, their relatives, or longevity. Sound familiar? [3/n]

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viq
@viq@social.hackerspace.pl · Apr 06
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It’s a field of fast-growing weeds, or a stand of aspens. It’s as if Euromericans, in the age of colonization and displacement of “old-growth cultures” are behaving like colonizing plants after a massive disturbance, dominating the landscape. But those colonizing plants find they cannot continue this rate of growth and resource extraction. They start to run out of resources, disease may attack the overdense populations, and competition begins to limit their growth. [4/n]

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viq
@viq@social.hackerspace.pl · Apr 06
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In fact, their behavior facilitates their own replacement. Their rampant growth captures nutrients and builds the more stable conditions in which their followers can flourish. Incrementally, they start to be replaced.

The ones who come next are different, growing more slowly in a resource-limited world. Stressful conditions incentivize nurturing relations of cooperation alongside competition. [5/n]

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viq
@viq@social.hackerspace.pl · Apr 06
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The extractive practices of the colonists must be replaced with reciprocity and replenishment if anyone is to survive. Investing in persistence, the new inhabitants are in it for the long haul. These communities have been called “mature” and sustainable, in contrast to the adolescent behavior of their predecessors. [6/n]

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viq
@viq@social.hackerspace.pl · Apr 06
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This transition from exploitation to reciprocity, from the individual good to the common good has been seen as a parallel to the transition that colonizing human societies must undergo, from hoarding to circulation, from independent to interdependent, from wounding to healing, if we are to thrive into the future. [7/7]

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