Post #93138
2025-12-24 18:33 UTC
Replies (12)
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@jfrench@cupoftea.social 2025-12-25 14:50
@soph@grrl.me @hazelweakly@hachyderm.io the torment nexus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torment_Nexus
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@indyradio@kafeneio.social 2025-12-25 16:48
@soph@grrl.me @hazelweakly@hachyderm.io oh it's not that every weasel is a hacker. oh no lol that is a problem
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@tbortels@infosec.exchange 2025-12-25 17:08
@soph@grrl.me @hazelweakly@hachyderm.io Honestly, ethics aren't just a computer science issue. It seems society as a whole has abandoned them, and we're paying the price.
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@lemgandi@mastodon.social 2025-12-25 17:23
@soph@grrl.me @hazelweakly@hachyderm.io Obligatory Torment Nexus reference.
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@EricLawton@kolektiva.social 2025-12-25 18:17
@soph@grrl.me @hazelweakly@hachyderm.io @adub@kolektiva.social My job as lead IT architect was to get people talking and converge on a solution that would help the people who could benefit from better information and automation of tasks that humans couldn't do well or didn't want to do. Although I had Comp Sci qualifications, and had written almost a million lines of code, that was just a barely-useful requirement to get the job. My most useful qualifications were: - Formally, experience as a social worker and grad school in philosophy. Maths helped a little, in knowing how to read and question statistics. - Informally, wide reading and lengthy discussions with academic friends in the social sciences and political activity in organizing for progressive movements and a socialist political party. - From social work, an ability to listen carefully and ask questions to help people say what they found hard to express, and a knowledge of how to deal with bureaucracy. (Not always possible 😟) From philosophy, as you say, ethics was most important, and a toolkit for analyzing complex problems. Although there are other combinations of skills and experience that help with the role, I agree that getting people to see that tech skills are low on the requirements list is the hard problem.
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@bontchev@infosec.exchange 2025-12-25 18:29
@soph@grrl.me @hazelweakly@hachyderm.io I'm in infosec but I wrote a paper about ethics a few years ago... (Before the pandemic, when I was still going to conferences.) Let me try to dig up the reference... Ah, here it is: https://jesbg.com/vbontchev-dpolimirova-contemporary-cyber-security-trends-and-related-ethical-dilemmas-part-1/ https://jesbg.com/vbontchev-dpolimirova-contemporary-cyber-security-trends-and-related-ethical-dilemmas-2/
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@tris@chaos.social 2025-12-25 18:45
@soph@grrl.me @hazelweakly@hachyderm.io Reminded me of @ariadne@social.treehouse.systems's this post: https://social.treehouse.systems/@ariadne/115772455708109827
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@NefariousCelt@mastodon.scot 2025-12-25 19:27
@soph@grrl.me @hazelweakly@hachyderm.io dev’s of my generation were raised in the ethical debates in sf literature. The problem is with Management, who think ethics has a border with Suffolk.
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@oldoldcojote@climatejustice.social 2025-12-25 19:59
@soph@grrl.me @hazelweakly@hachyderm.io Pretty sure AI, as its presently being used to experiment on the unwitting public, is going to join the nuclear bomb on the list of things the develpers should be tortured in Hades for.
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@StompyRobot@mastodon.gamedev.place 2025-12-25 21:02
@soph@grrl.me @hazelweakly@hachyderm.io You sound like you haven't had a successful exit yet. Can I interest you in a secondary round investment in my company, "torment nexus?" We're building deep virtual experiences for enterprise and government customers. Guaranteed to pay off!
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@kkarhan@infosec.space 2025-12-26 03:58
@soph@grrl.me @hazelweakly@hachyderm.io yeah...
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@kimlockhartga@beige.party 2025-12-26 15:02
@soph@grrl.me @hazelweakly@hachyderm.io these are good. "Oh cool. We should build the Torment Nexus."