Post #903521
2023-11-09 14:12 UTC
Replies (17)
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@Canageek@wandering.shop 2023-11-09 16:31
@The_T At SFU we had a TGA that ran on MS-DOS. When that computer failed, we replaced it the DOSBOX emulator. We had one windows 95 computer running out IR.
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@PsyChuan@plush.city 2023-11-09 16:32
@The_T i agree except i'm not paying again for a game i used to own. they should be free once they're two console generations old.
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@tanzureir@rubber.social 2023-11-09 16:54
@The_T relatable both with the video games and with the biomedical research
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@SRLevine@urbanists.social 2023-11-09 16:57
#AltText
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@RyunoKi@layer8.space 2023-11-09 16:59
@The_T I'm horrified. I knew that before, but it's worth sharing. No, lab equipment refuses to run in emulators.
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@CyberSaloperie@woof.tech 2023-11-09 17:15
#alt4you keatxu: “abandonware should be public domain. force companies to actively support and provide products if they don't wanna lose the rights to them” omikronsoul: “Game companies hate emulation, but none of them seem to understand that a lot of us would just buy ROMs from them directly if we could. I don't want a fifth remake of Final Fantasy IV, I want to pay five bucks for the 3MB file you already made bank with thirty years ago. Nobody who wants to play something for the purpose of retro gaming is going to consider a $40 remake as the alternative option, and we're certainly not going to let the original dissappear. They're crying about opportunity cost for a product they're not even selling.”
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@BearGriffin@discuss.systems 2023-11-09 17:36
@The_T On a related note, some banks (Citi, Chase) web sites for credit cards are now checking the version of the browser YOU are using to access YOUR MONEY. If you do not have an "up to date" browser, you do NOT get access to your financial information. Some of us poor Bxxtards do not have the funds to replace perfectly fine computers that have browsers not being updated (Safari on an old Mac mini) by the browser manufacture.
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@nonhappy@equestria.social 2023-11-09 18:01
@The_T If I remember correctly, I once heard a story about how some really old version of windows (XP, maybe?) still recieved patches for viruses in late 2020. Why? Because the US government apparently has several critical computers running programs necessary to deal with nuclear weapons that are incompatible with newer versions of windows. I don't know why the programs weren't recreated for newer platforms (probably security reasons) but the amount of important crap that relies on old computers can not be understated.
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@anarchaeopteryx@mstdn.games 2023-11-09 18:14
@The_T I saw this post on my tumblr dash yesterday so I was able to dig up the original quickly: https://www.tumblr.com/justletmeremember/733348191009996800/op-i-know-youre-probably-talking-about-like
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@Yuvalne@433.world 2023-11-09 18:19
@The_T modern copyright law helps no one other than rich multimillionaires.
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@seekingfreedom@retro.pizza 2023-11-09 18:20
@The_T It really is shocking how much still relies on old tech that isn’t being supported or produced anymore. Not the same exactly but I’m reminded of the last man standing in the floppy disk industry: https://www.theregister.com/AMP/2022/09/20/floppy_disk_business/
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@mav@hackers.town 2023-11-09 18:23
@The_T I'm recalling a couple of stories. A former student giving me a tour of a boutique machining house that makes one-off parts for everyone from the place down the street that makes fences for pig farms to federal contracts for classified parts. They had several pieces of machining equipment he was tasked to maintain because all of them ran end of life operating systems, all Windows of some sort, on which the software had been purposely EOLd by the manufacturer. The owner didn't want to replace a half million dollar piece of machining equipment because the software was old, so instead they relied on sneakernet and keeping internal IT staff that could maintain those old systems. At one of my earliest IT jobs, in the early 2000s, we had one system locked in a physical cage, and when I asked what it was for, found out it was one machine that ran proprietary point of sale credit card processing for their one retail front in this facility. Their BANK, who provided the software, refused to update it and demanded they buy new hardware. So they kept a couple of WINDOWS 95 systems in a physical cage and only provided access to the IT director and accounting floor manager. IMO these sorts of things should really be illegal. Maybe they could say something like businesses could be released of their liability by openly releasing the source for their apps and file formats, if customers want to take on the task of managing them. Some things are so hilariously expensive it'd be cheaper to hire a full time in house developer to maintain an app than EOL it and replace the devices it runs.
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@eobeara@mastodon.ie 2023-11-09 18:51
@The_T Having worked in IT at a pharmaceutical manufacturing plant I can confirm that lab devices after a few years, tend to be run on unsupported software and/or hardware. Also some are still running Java on WinXP 😄 It's just too expensive to upgrade.
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@defrisselle@mastodon.sdf.org 2023-11-09 22:28
@The_T Lab guy needs to get into Retrocomputing We have solutions for this I'm also curious why they don't seem to have those Win95 machines backed up
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@apophis@mycrowd.ca 2023-11-10 00:20
@The_T because of a single piece of mission-critical language software that has no sufficiently direct equivalent available for current machines our home still has an XP box
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@kateyagi@chitter.xyz 2023-11-10 05:03
@The_T >Not a place to make some comment that makes the same point as the image I just posted. Fr tho even in comment sections it's odd how much replies are just summaries. Like keep the conversation going at least.
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@arclight@oldbytes.space 2023-11-10 13:50
@The_T I miss RTs; I could comment on a post without derailing the thread.