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Post #782779

2026-03-26 11:06 UTC

Friendly reminder: last year I built FediMod FIRES, a protocol and reference server implementation for sharing moderation data. I haven't yet been able to get anyone to adopt it or even signal intent to adopt. But regularly I see people complaining about the lack of data sharing when it comes to moderation, especially for combating spam, scams, and harassment. The tool is there, please use it! Whilst I'm not actively working on FediMod FIRES this quarter, I did apply in November for a grant to continue that work, and last I heard a few weeks ago is that the grant made it to the next stage, so I may have some money again to fund development. It's not 1.0.0 yet, because I decided it needed more work for me to be happy to call it that, but it is usable! Installation is also super simple for data producers, literally two commands on debian or ubuntu boxes. Learn more: https://fires.fedimod.org/manuals/reference-server/ #moderation #fediblock #administration

Replies (15)

  • @thisismissem@hachyderm.io 2026-03-29 08:53

    Here's a public FIRES server: https://fires.1sland.social Integrated with Pelago: https://archipelago.1sland.social/fires #moderation #fediblock #administration

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  • @the_moep@mastodon.de 2026-03-26 11:10

    @thisismissem@hachyderm.io First time hearing about it tbh (and I don't admin large instances anyways 😅) but will take a look at it, sounds like it could be useful.

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  • @renchap@oisaur.com 2026-03-26 12:03

    @thisismissem@hachyderm.io probably not very helpful for now, but we intent to implement *lists (blocklists, email blocklists…) synchronisation in Mastodon in our next version. We have not defined the exact scope yet but I want it to support FIRES (likely in addition to ingesting « simple » CSVs)

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  • @julian@fietkau.social 2026-03-26 12:05

    @thisismissem@hachyderm.io Who would be the target audience for FediMod FIRES? Is it anyone who moderates a fediverse server, or are you looking strictly for admins who can set up software integrations? Is there a minimum server size or moderation workload? Is anything about it limited to Mastodon or is it applicable to all or most ActivityPub social platforms? (🫢 Don't tell anyone, but I already know the answers to most of these, I just think it would be helpful to know for others reading this thread.)

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  • @draeath@infosec.exchange 2026-03-26 12:21

    @thisismissem@hachyderm.io @jerry@infosec.exchange spreadin' the word, sounds very useful

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  • @pBaesse@bolha.one 2026-03-26 13:33

    @thisismissem@hachyderm.io very nice :blobBone_jump:

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  • @mxfraud@tabletop.social 2026-03-26 13:34

    @thisismissem@hachyderm.io I'm going to try to say this with the most respect for you and your work. If it is not in mastodon mainline as a feature, it might as well not exist. The problem has never been ideas, protocols, or implementations, its always been adversarial relashionship from gargron and or the Mastodon GMBH leadership team. They clearly do not want to prioritise this feature and many other feaures that people asked for years (hello local only post). And the only people that can use this servers are: re-implementers, people that need a dedicated service to scale (and probbaly have multiple, high traffic instances), and hobbyist self hosters. All the people using masto.host/ 3rd parties won't be able to use it. Which I assume is the vast majority of the people wanting to have access to that feature in the first place. Unless Mastodon GMBH start to listen to their community (instance administrators), the complaining will continue I'm affraid. Again, trying my best here to convey that the work you did is needed and appreciated, and that my problems are with the people holding the power here.

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  • @troed@masto.sangberg.se 2026-03-26 15:38

    @thisismissem@hachyderm.io I totally missed this - will check it out now!

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  • @mo@mastodon.ml 2026-03-26 16:23

    @thisismissem@hachyderm.io you have pretty good installation tutorial but...not a single word about what to do after that Or maybe I'm looking at wrong location, but I couldn't find anything about how to make up and running server do something useful (/nonneg) Maybe I can help with documenting somehow?

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  • @thisismissem@hachyderm.io @admin@hear-me.social does this seem like it would help you?

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  • @thisismissem@hachyderm.io Is this essentially just blocklist sharing? Doesnt this introduce the potential for certain instances to censor users across multiple instances?

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  • @m3t00@app.wafrn.net 2026-03-28 01:43

    @thisismissem@hachyderm.io seems like a good idea. used to wrestle with similar issues across diverse platforms; web/windows/linux/mac and eventually used ldap:mint_embarrassed: db to achieve 'single sign-on'. seems fedi could benefit from a distributed login. heroic effort. thanks. also I had no clue about fires until poking around to; https://fires.fedimod.org/concepts/

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  • @rimu@mastodon.nzoss.nz 2026-03-29 20:48

    @thisismissem@hachyderm.io I am very interested in adopting this, for PieFed. But when I look at the docs and every page says "This section of the documentation is still being written" it gives me pause.

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  • @tootadmin@pizza.enby.city 2026-03-30 09:50

    @thisismissem@hachyderm.io Is this intended to run along side your mastodon/gotosocial container? If so, we might be interested in adding it to our helm charts for deploying both.

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  • @thisismissem@hachyderm.io we would be interested, but we pay for hosting so not rly sure how that would work?

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