Post #722860
2026-03-22 03:00 UTC
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@DeniseGutzmer@mindly.social 2026-03-22 03:02
@ai6yr https://apnews.com/article/babies-newborns-pediatricians-vitamin-k-hepatitis-b-erythromycin-9126463f0cb38b9778fb77bc0d071776
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@cvvhrn@sfba.social 2026-03-22 04:29
@ai6yr Yeah sadly I can directly attest to this. My wife also an RN works in a NICU and this is becoming more and more common. The Vitamin K is critical to prevent bleeding and strokes https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/protective-vitamin-shots-newborns-decline And the eye ointment? TO prevent pink eye or anything else (at that age it can result in blindness) they picked up while being born. https://www.aao.org/education/clinical-statement/use-of-erythromycin-in-prevention-of-neonatal-opht These parents should have to put money in escrow to cover these avoidable problems. Why? If a kid has a stroke, the odds are long if they can ever go home. We can send INCREDIBLY medically complex home and our incredible parents can do amazing things (I am talking ventilators, feeding tubes et al.) but some cannot and these go to nursing homes. We become very close to the families because we are their ride home for every procedure, every admission and the like. The sad reality is this level of care will costs 10's of millions over the course of this kiddo's life Maybe these imbeciles should put their money where there ignorance is
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@bweller@mstdn.social 2026-03-22 05:34
@ai6yr negligent homicide once we have a scientific understanding of the situation, it's criminal from there
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@pewnack@aus.social 2026-03-22 10:23
@ai6yr Back when I was still using Facebook, so prob more than 10 yrs ago, there were plenty of these idiots back then "questioning" Vit K shots. They could be found on the page for "Natural News", an antivax, conspiracy theory, just general woo peddling echo chamber run by the notorious antivaxxer and grifter, Mike Adams. Non ironically the people on this page referred to themselves as "woke" and everyone else as "sheeple". It's not far from rejecting vaccines to rejecting any shot. Most of them rejected any modern evidence based medicine. Many rejected germ theory for example. They were deeply into wellness, and the extreme body purity that demanded. So you can easily see why so many found a very short path from "detox shakes" to "mass deportations now" and white supremacy. COVID gave these mostly fringe dwellers political power. And here we are, or you are. Many of these lunatics are behind the so-called MAHA "movement". Australia has its pockets of antivaxxer communities like Nimbin and Byron Bay, NSW. Unfortunately we're not increasing vaccine uptake anywhere. Personally, and logically I don't understand why #COVID made people want to have fewer vaccinations. I mean, I do because of politics and conspiracy theories, but there was a non-zero probability no COVID vaccine was developed. We could all still be experiencing periods of (much higher) deaths and disability than we do now. That so many vaccines were, and continue to be developed surely would lead anyone to jump at the chance to get something that in another universe might have never happened. #Vaccines
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@RIJim@mastodon.social 2026-03-22 10:32
@ai6yr I think these folks mean Darwinian rather than natural.
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@fulner@social.mojo.fyi 2026-03-22 13:26
@ai6yr I wish I could figure out
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@geographile@sfba.social 2026-03-22 15:28
@ai6yr I used to know a woman who, around the time the vitamin k shot was introduced, I think, just before it, lost one baby, got to keep another, lost a third, and finally adopted because she thought it was her making faulty babies. Very soon after that the shot came around, and she could have had kept her babies.
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@Lkdc@dmv.community 2026-03-22 16:25
@ai6yr Thanks for sharing the article. I find it reasonable of parents to be skeptical of the vitamin K shots. It seems logical that if babies were routinely born with a fatal shortage of vitamin K, evolution would have fixed that problem hundreds of thousands of years ago. If there is something about modern life that has made vitamin K deficiency a new problem, explain that to parents so that they will understand! That's what responsible doctors do when parents are vaccine skeptics. It is simple to explain that our hunter-gatherer ancestors of 10,000 years ago didn't need vaccinations, because they lived in small bands of people and very seldom encountered germs from outside the band. Today, with most people living in large cities, and airplane travel spreading germs far and wide, vaccination against germs is essential for us in a way it wasn't for our distant ancestors. If there's a similar explanation for why vitamin K shots were once unnecessary but now have become necessary, tell parents about it. Otherwise, it is reasonable for them to think that evolution would have eliminated a condition that affected a significant percentage of babies.
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@targetdrone@mastodon.social 2026-03-22 20:20
@ai6yr
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@leastaction@writing.exchange 2026-03-22 20:43
@ai6yr > “I do think these families care deeply about their infants,” said Dr. Kelly Wade Actually no, they don't. If they did, they would take responsibility for making sure they got correct information, instead of letting their egos make them vulnerable to quackery. Wilful ignorance is inexcusable.
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@f800gecko@mastodon.online 2026-03-22 21:40
@ai6yr They get the only vax they need from social networking and the fawning caress of AI - the stupidity shot.
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@EricLawton@kolektiva.social 2026-03-22 22:06
@ai6yr This "natural is good" idea is s baffling. Arsenic, toxic mushrooms, the plague, cancer, … all natural. I get that many highly processed foods are harmful, but natural/manufactured is not a distinction that correlates with healthy/harmful. @bonaventuresoft
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@coolandnormal@aus.social 2026-03-22 22:21
@ai6yr from someone in the sexual health system: I actually get it. I don't support it, but I get it. The medical system should be questioned. It isn't perfect. It's actually pretty fucked up. Is vitamin k shots one of the things that's fucked up? As it happens, no, they're great. But the only way to *truly* know this is to do a deep dive on the scientific papers, read and interpret their their results yourself. If you're a neonatal haematologist, that will go great. But what if you're a veterinary dermatologist? You're basically fucked. The only thing you can do is trust your own ability to choose experts and interpretations to trust.
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@Dealiah@mastodon.sdf.org 2026-03-23 02:12
@ai6yr Unfortunately, Darwinism at work.
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@GinevraCat@toot.community 2026-03-23 15:39
@ai6yr There are not enough profanities in the world for parents who fail to protect their children from preventable diseases. I had a doctor tell me once that he has never met an antivaxxer who refused the rabies vaccine after a bite from an infected animal. (This was in a place with endemic rabies). It's easy to refuse care when the consequences are invisible to you, or too far away in your children's future to care. 🤬 🤬