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Post #722845

2026-03-22 11:54 UTC

Allow me to introduce #MLL coding, the counterpart to #LLM vibe coding. MLL (Manual Labor of Love) coding allows one to spend more time doing a thing, and lets one get better, faster, and 100% understood code.

Replies (16)

  • @colin_mcmillen@piaille.fr 2026-03-22 11:55

    Side effects of #MLL coding include amassing expertise, and pride in your work.

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  • @lykso@tiny.tilde.website 2026-03-22 14:41

    @colin_mcmillen The Wendell Berry school of programming!

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  • @colin_mcmillen @aburka > 100% understood code I've pulled plenty of code out of my brain where I have 0% idea how it works.

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  • @colin_mcmillen https://programming-motherfucker.com/ needs an update.

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  • @colin_mcmillen @Binder I’m re-learning how to code after about 20 years. Going right back to basics, even touch typing. This is part of the joy. Seen loads of courses on how to vibe code. Don’t want that, “make pong in 30 seconds” NO! Have seen tech bros argue that it’s the same as compiling stuff. Again no! One is a direct conversion, the other is throwing stuff at the wall and see what sticks. What happened to the fun of making sprites bounce around the screen?

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  • @mason@partychickens.net 2026-03-22 18:03

    @colin_mcmillen I like that you're calling it a labour of love. There was a time just before the dot-com crash when EVERYONE was getting into programming because it was big money. Those of us in it for love looked on, aghast, as our field was overridden by people who only cared about money, making it all the harder to find work. This feels like the next iteration of that time, only people learning how to program didn't cause them cognitive harm. And that suggests that this might be cyclic. I wonder what the next one will be. If it's a quarter of a century away I plan to still be working in the industry. It's what I love.

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  • @cap_ybarra@beige.party 2026-03-22 18:17

    @colin_mcmillen holy shit, i'd better learn this or i'll get left behind. time to make it my entire personality

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  • @dauphin1@mastodon.social 2026-03-22 18:50

    @colin_mcmillen I don't get why people militantly fight against llms and vibecoding. Besides when was the last time anything manual won against automation?

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  • @fbarton@infosec.exchange 2026-03-23 22:01

    @colin_mcmillen as someone with ties to K12 education… MLL : Multi Language Learner I guess that works too

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  • @brouhaha@mastodon.social 2026-03-23 23:39

    @colin_mcmillen Well, not quite always 100%.

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  • @psu_13@toot.wales 2026-03-24 01:12

    @colin_mcmillen https://mutable-states.com/slow-code.html

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  • @tmcfarlane@toot.community 2026-03-24 07:39

    @colin_mcmillen 1"00% understood" feels like a direct attack on the perl community! (How long do we have to understand it for?)

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  • @glitchy404@wetdry.world 2026-03-24 11:58

    @colin_mcmillen sure it'll be harder, but it will also be better, faster and stronger!

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  • @colin_mcmillen MLL! Love it!

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  • @rina@norden.social 2026-04-05 13:08

    @colin_mcmillen i "only" need to find a job in MLL :blobcatsadlife:

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  • @colin_mcmillen I'm full time practicing MLL programmer. I do this for decades and I enjoy the process.

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