Post #720547
2026-03-20 12:02 UTC
Replies (9)
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@Nuvalon@social.vivaldi.net 2026-03-20 12:03
@veronica Python community is so cooked :python: 😭😭😭😭
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@thatdnaguy@genomic.social 2026-03-20 12:08
@veronica sigh. It never ends. Stage 1: announce you will help "the community" Stage 2: make an ok project people start to use. Stage 3 (you are here): consolidate hold over entire ecosystem. Stage 4: monetization. Stage 5: Enshittify to increase profit extraction. Stage 6: Abandon project to refocus priorities. 🙄
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@paulk@writing.exchange 2026-03-20 12:17
@veronica That sucks!! We hates it!
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@davidculley@hachyderm.io 2026-03-20 12:58
@veronica It seems people are now recommending PDM. https://pdm-project.org/ This is how you would install PDM: python3 -m pip install --user pipx && pipx install pdm
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@bms48@mastodon.social 2026-03-20 13:56
@veronica Isn't the same true of Microsoft controlling Node.js npm, and of Microsoft and NVidia controlling the white-box switch ecosystem between them?
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@sherbang@chaos.social 2026-03-20 14:01
@veronica I've been always skeptical of VC-backed Astral. I did start using Ruff, but stuck with Poetry instead of uv, and I'm glad I did.
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@diazona@techhub.social 2026-03-21 08:23
@veronica No, this is a rather misleading statement. OpenAI has zero control over any version of the #Astral tools that came out before the acquisition (unless they were secretly pulling the strings of the Astral developers behind the scenes all along, but AFAIK there's zero evidence of that, and if they were doing it why would they bring on additional scrutiny by announcing an acquisition?), and going forward, the #Python community can just stop using those tools. There are pure-Python alternatives for all of them, as well as the forks that will inevitably spring up. This is why we have standards. I'm sure there are a fair number of package developers that either don't know or don't care this is happening, and will keep using Astral tools out of sheer laziness, and I suppose those projects could be considered subject to some sort of "control" from OpenAI... but still, they have the choice to just, y'know, not be. Any time they want.
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@paco@infosec.exchange 2026-03-22 02:43
@veronica This made me so sad. I don’t do a ton of open source or projects where package management is even a thing. But I just discovered how fast uv was about a year ago and started moving all my stuff away from pip. We need a fork. I don’t want to give up uv, but I’m not going to use openAI tools. Is there something as fast as uv (or at least faster than pip)? 🙁🙁🙁
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@titociuro@mstdn.social 2026-03-25 02:01
@veronica @obrhoff Remember, gravity is a thing.