Post #655015

2025-11-14 15:41 UTC

Mozilla announces more AI in Firefox, still failing to understand that at this point their market share is made of tech savvy people who do not want that. Mozilla, please. Stop chasing the fads. Get your own values. People use Firefox to get access to an open web, use a sturdy browser, and not to be tracked. Build in that direction and that direction only. Nobody from your current user base will recommend Firefox with AI to their friends. https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-window/ #firefox #ai #privacy

Replies (11)

@thibaultamartin@mamot.fr 2025-11-14 16:06

Mozilla sprouted Rust and Servo. They can do cool things that make the world a better place, even if it takes more work to extract a marketing argument for an investor brochure. It's frustrating to see Mozilla dig its own hole of irrelevancy.

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@thibaultamartin@mamot.fr 2025-11-15 09:42

I wanted to write a more nuanced follow up but @anildash already wrote it. I’d recommend everyone who boosted this to have a read. The TLDR for me is - Numbers say people do want AI - Mozilla has a role to play in educating people about AI, to protect their privacy - Mozilla is terrible at announcing such features, and seems to lack coordination overall https://www.anildash.com/2025/11/14/wanting-not-to-want-ai/

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@thibaut_plg@piaille.fr 2025-11-14 15:58

@thibaultamartin Forum users are quite vocals on this too https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/building-ai-the-firefox-way-shaping-what-s-next-together/td-p/109922 What a waste of time and resources

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@skylark13@mastodon.gamedev.place 2025-11-14 16:00

@thibaultamartin Agreed, I am still using FF because it's still the least bad and most maintained browser but this will be what makes me jump ship eventually. Lots of people are less tolerant than me and already have. If at least they had one master switch to disable all that, but no, it's like 7 settings at this point and they tend to reset when it updates...

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@unchartedworlds@scicomm.xyz 2025-11-14 16:10

@thibaultamartin This, exactly.

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@DiogoConstantino@masto.pt 2025-11-14 16:17

@thibaultamartin Not sure if that is the majority of them, it's certainly at least a fair chunk of the user base. I'm also not sure if that wouldn't result in crystallizing the user share on a very small part of web users, and therefore preventing Mozilla's mission. What they are failing to understand and do is to adopt this with the correct tone and possibly correct priority on the UX. The blog doesn't even mention the users who don't want AI as existing, and that's offensive.

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@paoloredaelli@mastodon.uno 2025-11-14 16:21

@thibaultamartin AFAIK their Ai will be local so it won't track anyone

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@yoasif@mastodon.social 2025-11-14 16:28

@thibaultamartin It is sad. I used to tell people to not move to Vivaldi because it is Chromium and closed source. Mozilla is making it harder for advocates to not get laughed out of conversations.

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@realtegan@wandering.shop 2025-11-14 16:36

@thibaultamartin The only thing I want to know about AI in Firefox (or anywhere else) is how to turn it off so it stays off forever.

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@ottaross@mastodon.social 2025-11-14 16:38

@thibaultamartin Jeez, Glad I've been moving things off Firefox this past week, and adopting #Waterfox. Without any hiccups so far, so it seems to be stable and useful as a daily driver. They're digging themselves into a hole.

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@tris@chaos.social 2025-11-14 16:39

@thibaultamartin I recommend Firefox to non-techie friends who want AI browser :P

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