Post #4232361
2026-07-30 07:48 UTC
Replies (40)
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@Tutanota@mastodon.social 2026-07-30 07:48
Yes AI, but only locally - for example.
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@Selvari21106@mastodon.social 2026-07-30 07:49
@Tutanota@mastodon.social no AI. Ever.
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@hasanyildiz@mastodon.social 2026-07-30 07:53
@Tutanota@mastodon.social Yes, I think there should be a place for AI, at least in part. Asking humans for help with certain topics can be difficult, and not everyone can be as patient as AI. :D At this point, I don't think there's any issue with using AI as a helpful tool when you're in a tight spot.
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@centopus@101010.pl 2026-07-30 07:53
@Tutanota@mastodon.social AI is good for data processing/analysis. LOCALLY. Like MRI Scans or X-Ray Pictures. Its great with it. This is a tool that helps specialists go through a backlog of data, so people can sleep ailment free or know, they need to get treatment NOW. GENERATIVE AI is poop that is destroying everything.
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@urlyman@mastodon.social 2026-07-30 07:54
@Tutanota@mastodon.social the missing option is “no, but” because… https://mastodon.social/@urlyman/116623150311153409
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@SpaceCheeseWizard@woof.tech 2026-07-30 08:01
@Tutanota@mastodon.social Basically no AI whatsoever. My main problem is generative AI, but that extends to any sort of LLM usage. I find it immoral.
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@soumyadghosh@mastodon.social 2026-07-30 08:26
@Tutanota@mastodon.social yes AI but run locally, sandboxed, preferably no outbound connection
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@juno0@mastodon.social 2026-07-30 08:28
@Tutanota@mastodon.social Yes AI... But for information only, since i got ADHD i dont have the possibility to understand what its written on that file or document, so i just ask AI to explain it to me step by step, good use of AI.
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@42phi61861@mastodon.social 2026-07-30 08:45
@Tutanota@mastodon.social A.I can be used for Good and Bad as with anything in life A company who manufactures Matches can never be responsible for every Forrest fire A.I is Only as Good as one’s Intentions are !
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@sinextitan@mastodon.social 2026-07-30 08:48
@Tutanota@mastodon.social Yes AI, but not this stupid.
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@photovince@mastodon.social 2026-07-30 08:49
@Tutanota@mastodon.social Even “yes, but” is an oversimplification. AI is a whole field in computer science (for many decades, I might add) or do you mean “LLMs” or “generative AI”? In that case it would be a “no, unless”. Training data must not be stolen but public or bought, cost should be transparent and charged to the user (no dumping or bait and switch) and that includes not externalising cost of water and electricity use. That alone cuts out most applications on cost-effectiveness.
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@felipecerda@mastodon.social 2026-07-30 09:30
@Tutanota@mastodon.social Yes but private, along the lines of what Duck and Proton are doing.
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@contrasocial@mastodon.social 2026-07-30 10:02
@Tutanota@mastodon.social Tuta looking to enshittify itself already?
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@Brynawel@mastodon.social 2026-07-30 10:22
@Tutanota@mastodon.social Yes AI, but only for the shitty little tasks, like writing a promo teaser for an event or something like that. Marketing stuff, wich isn't my domain and I want as litte as possible to do with it.
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@barryallen2023@mastodon.social 2026-07-30 10:41
@Tutanota@mastodon.social Yes but, only for a better version of a search engine. Or running entirely locally on data you control. It should not be used for coding, for writing, for creating anything. Anywhere it could "do the job of a human" (not very well) it should not be used.
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@W_Hurless@mastodon.social 2026-07-30 11:32
@Tutanota@mastodon.social Yea, I like AI, I like computers, I like technology, I am Autistic and have trouble socializing, so over the years I filled my life with technology rather than people, and when I say I like AI, I like AI that you setup and control your self, on your own hardware, AI should be a tool to help you, that you control, not something to replace you, not something forced on you, and at this point I am getting tired of companies making things "easier for me", such a pain in the butt 🤬
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@mjc0961@mastodon.social 2026-07-30 11:47
@Tutanota@mastodon.social No AI Specifically no LLMs. No ChatGPT, no Gemini, no Copilot, no Grok, no local models, none of this new bubble related shit. They're all trained via stealing from real authors and artists. They're all speed running destroying the planet we all live on. And most importantly, they're all terrible at what they do, not a single one of them is fit for purpose.
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@sheislaurence@mastodon.social 2026-07-30 11:55
@Tutanota@mastodon.social AI should be rationed and allocated on actual positive social impact, specific medical research etc... It must be proven that the same result cannot be obtained in a reasonable time otherwise.
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@clemcall@mastodon.social 2026-07-30 12:18
@Tutanota@mastodon.social Yes, AI but intelligently, like any tool. - Small/efficient models, offline if possible - Transparency on usage - Preservation of human ownership by reading/testing - Protection of prod from any "it works but I couldn't write it myself" changes Pandora's box is open, let's fight to make the best and prevent the worst of it.
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@serbweb3@mastodon.social 2026-07-30 12:58
@Tutanota@mastodon.social aber eine OpenSource welche die DSGVO tatsächlich einhält. Einfach abzulehnen ist wirklich falsch. Es richtig anzugehen ist der bessere Ansatz.
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@peterbroks@mastodon.social 2026-07-30 13:15
@Tutanota@mastodon.social Yes but.....run as state-owned public utility with major restrictions on use. Not a for-profit toy of fascist tech bros.
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@LeLutin_SurLeMur@mastodon.social 2026-07-30 13:35
@Tutanota@mastodon.social Yes to AI in a scientific or medical context, in fields where this technology can save time in developing tools that help the vast majority of humanity. And only within a controlled, verified, open-source and free framework. No to generative AI used to produce pretty pictures, videos and rubbish text on the web.
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@danielcberman@infosec.exchange 2026-07-30 13:57
@Tutanota@mastodon.social Yes AI but only locally. The Agentic concept is intriguing to me but I want it ALL running on my own hardware. The Data Centre sprawl, the inability to buy normal servers for what was normal market rates, the destruction of rare books, the bad implementations as customer service bots just ich.
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@pombo_proibido@mastodon.social 2026-07-30 14:35
@Tutanota@mastodon.social Yes, for education, research, science and to address needs that are oftem overlook (like gathering information about indigenous languages that are poorly documented and in multiple languages, cancer research, etc). No, for entertaiment: Image/Video/Music generation just to post it on social media. the amount of resources that generating an image take is a total waste. Yes, but there has to be a limit on how much energy/resources those data centers can take.
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@em_and_future_cats@mastodon.social 2026-07-30 14:46
@Tutanota@mastodon.social There needs to be a regulation system for Ai & data centers to work ethically & efficiently. Ai needs to get back into the public sector (I mean go to be run by government agencies, this government is crap but responsible government agencies) it should only be used for security purposes & not “creative stuff”. Private corporations think only about “how their head honchos” feel rather than public good. They rather burn this world than have to deal with any consequences.😾Otherwise NO Ai
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@pombo_proibido@mastodon.social 2026-07-30 15:01
@Tutanota@mastodon.social I forgot a big one No, for surveillance
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@dasfrottier@mastodon.social 2026-07-30 15:05
@Tutanota@mastodon.social we better vote yes or the AI will read this and come for us (these days I always keep an eye open for renegade data centers lingering in a dark alley, just to be safe)
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@almonds@mastodon.mit.edu 2026-07-30 14:52
@Tutanota@mastodon.social Re: LLMs ("AI"), I really can't say how I feel in one or two toots... As an educator, I feel we ought to build our own knowledge & skills and not rent it out, particularly never to corporations/people who continually lobby for hate and cannot be trusted. As an engineer, I feel it's our collective responsibility to guarantee safety before we adopt a technology that is being used so extensively for harm. Other users here can point to plenty of specific examples. 1/2
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@LordCaramac@discordian.social 2026-07-30 14:41
@Tutanota@mastodon.social Yes to AI, but no to capitalism. Yes to small open source models you can run locally and modify with LoRAs. No to proprietary systems. No to SaaS and AIaaS.
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@thevhswizard@retro.pizza 2026-07-30 14:26
@Tutanota@mastodon.social Yes AI, but... only for things like translation and other things that "AI" has been able to assist with for literal decades now, but were never considered to be "AI" and have only been bundled in with "AI" by companies trying to do a gotcha on the anti-AI folk by going "oh yeah, well THIS is also part of it, do you still hate it now?"
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@staringatclouds@mstdn.social 2026-07-30 14:21
@Tutanota@mastodon.social That should be no LLM AI There are other forms of AI, machine learning, heuristics, genetic algorithms etc.. that are fine Glorified token prediction, auto complete engines that require the burning of a forest & the power & water of a medium sized town to draw a picture of a cow with six legs are not
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@greenpete@sunny.garden 2026-07-30 10:22
@Tutanota@mastodon.social I'm against AI, but I am for ML. To me AI is techbro hype about a generic model running on planet destroying hardware. Whereas ML, is something much smaller, and targeted. Searching for cures for cancer needs specific data sets to work on, not all the stolen data a techbro can possibly get by repeatedly scraping every server on the planet. So to argue, as some do, that we need AI for the answer to our problems, is missing a big part of the picture.
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@bjoern@social.sengotta.net 2026-07-30 10:12
@Tutanota@mastodon.social yes AI, when it comes to local machine learning models and llm with a decent energy footprint. No to the kind of AI greedy silicon valley billionaires dream of.
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@ZiClaud@toot.community 2026-07-30 08:51
@Tutanota@mastodon.social I'm personally a bit against the people using AI, but it can still be used for good stuff, as it was already used in medical fields. I'd personally put: No, but if used to improve the life of people, then yes. And also: Yes, but only if I search for it, I don't want it shoved into my throat
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@nikapunk@feed.voidcentury.net 2026-07-30 09:41
@Tutanota@mastodon.social Yes AI, when it is locally and secure. Eventually on the cloud on research purposes like for scientists. Not as a product to collect people data. Not in big datacenters that destroys the planet just to have a quickest answer than searching google. Not to be used to kill or manipulate people. Not for features that people do not need. Not to advertise.
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@erwinrossen@mas.to 2026-07-30 10:12
@Tutanota@mastodon.social Yes AI, but more transparency and regulation on big tech companies currently owning the models (and us).
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@alvan@social.lol 2026-07-30 08:44
@Tutanota@mastodon.social i misclicked 😭. Yes ai, but only locally, and ethically sourced data. I find LLMs useful for translation, and small utilitarian applications of it.
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@Keldrim@meow.social 2026-07-30 08:09
@Tutanota@mastodon.social It's not even doing the best job recognizing traffic signs... I can write my thoughts my self and I don't need it for a worse search either, just thanks but no thanks.
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@destravi@mastodon.social 2026-07-30 16:37
@Tutanota@mastodon.social yes but no but yes but no. It might be useful in things like writing a (sterile sounding) document or for some pointers at the beginning of a research project, or even for hacking up a couple of images you don't have the technical knowhow to create, but IN NO WAY should it be let anywhere near core or critical systems, for example, like I saw just earlier in this very feed, answering 911 calls, or used for lethal (or potentially lethal) targeting data...
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@gooba42@mastodon.social 2026-07-30 16:38
@Tutanota@mastodon.social LLMs can't perform as advertised. Even if the training canon had been filled out ethically and consensually, and the cognitive impacts were mitigated, the hardware requirements are still killing humanity. They can't operate without waivers on environmental protection, water rights, power generation... They're literally toxic to humanity just to run them at all regardless of their work product.