Post #36978
2025-12-06 21:29 UTC
Replies (18)
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@vol4life8657@tweesecake.social 2025-12-06 21:42
@jcsteh@aus.social I know right?
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@clv1@mastodon.social 2025-12-06 21:44
@jcsteh@aus.social Yes. Organizations are made of persons, and the majority of ordinary persons want to follow what they think are the trends.
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@Quentin@theres.life 2025-12-06 21:43
@jcsteh@aus.social the amount of damage to basically every major tech company is staggering, from the programs and code which have been wrecked, loss of reputation, good people losing their jobs or being taken off good projects for AI work... And as consumers we can't even complain because you have to deal with the AI chat bot...
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@mario_angst_sci@fediscience.org 2025-12-06 21:52
@jcsteh@aus.social I am involved in a lot of discussions on the resource use of "AI", and yes, we should keep an eye on that, but I often also come back to this point. The most maddening thing to me is probably both the money wasted and headspace preoccupied by this hype that could have been somewhere else instead. Obviously it is too easy of a story - it is not like magically everyone would have poured their energy into caring about planetary boundaries and injustices instead, but if even a tenth of what went into the AI hype would have gone towards that...
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@saschacowley@beige.party 2025-12-06 22:25
@jcsteh@aus.social I can't imagine it's easy working for one of the organisations that has been so corrupted. I mean I find the amount of time NV Access puts into "AI" upsetting, and we've got nothing on Mozilla in that regard.
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@BorrisInABox@fwoof.space 2025-12-07 00:44
@jcsteh@aus.social If that's not a subtoot while also being very broadly true, I don't know what is.
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@jilleduffy@mastodon.social 2025-12-07 01:01
@jcsteh@aus.social Yes. This. We need to start talking about "cost" differently.
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@ambientspace@cloudisland.nz 2025-12-07 01:14
@jcsteh@aus.social @Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange makes me think of a bunch of stone heads on a remote Pacific island.
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@Stefan_S_from_H@mastodon.social 2025-12-07 01:33
@jcsteh@aus.social “resources it has pointlessly drawn away from other, more important work” Now I'm thinking about the beginning of “Idiocracy”.
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@ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social 2025-12-07 02:13
@jcsteh@aus.social Under capitalism the vast majority of human labour is steered towards a myopic focus: profit for the capitalist class, that means more hours on the job less time spent with people you care about. " The evil of the present system is therefore not that the “surplus-value” of production goes to the capitalist[...]The evil lies in the possibility of a surplus-value existing " Pëtr Kropotkin - The Conquest of Bread http://libraryqxxiqakubqv3dc2bend2koqsndbwox2johfywcatxie26bsad.onion/library/petr-kropotkin-the-conquest-of-bread-1926-edition
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@gudenau@hachyderm.io 2025-12-07 02:43
@jcsteh@aus.social That's an interesting thought. I highly doubt all of that compute will be used for cancer research after the burst....
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@DrSuzanne@ohai.social 2025-12-07 04:20
@jcsteh@aus.social I really don't need one more reason to hate ai, but now I have one. 🤔
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@Iveyline@mastodon.social 2025-12-07 05:53
@jcsteh@aus.social So true. It is a rapacious beast.
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@Homoevolutis0@mastodon.social 2025-12-07 06:30
@jcsteh@aus.social Merely a diversion. Like sports events.
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@CARRIERmedia@mastodonapp.uk 2025-12-07 08:21
@jcsteh@aus.social I've been quite happy to quietly switch off Ai whenever it pops up everywhere, but was terrified to see it leak into my companies accounts package where one must formally agree that Ai makes mistakes and then also accept I'm fully responsible for submissions to the Tax authority. Gulp. Please stop helping!
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@miki@dragonscave.space 2025-12-07 20:10
@jcsteh@aus.social The amount of resources it is using, especially when compared to how much the same work would take when done by a human, is... greatly exaggerated, a Chat GPT prompt (with a modern model) uses as much energy as ~10 seconds of Netflix afaik. You're absolutely right on your second point though. While AI is definitely going to change the world, your site for ordering takeout burgers or whatever does not need three AI assistants.
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@TAVCreations@ottawa.place 2025-12-08 14:37
@jcsteh@aus.social yep.
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@Godfrey642@aus.social 2025-12-08 23:49
@jcsteh@aus.social 1000% agree Im furious about AI. It's being sold as this amazing resource that is so good for us all. But it isn't. Apart from the VAST drain on energy (that we none of us can afford financially or resource-wise globally) it's a drain on us individually. We WILL become stupider and less capable in all sorts of ways. Im sick of it all. And we are never given a choice about it. Sick of business interests telling me i need this or that technology that I really don't need and really don't want. Sure there are exceptions: disabled ppl or elderly need AI and huge cars and Alexa/Siri and driverless vehicles to make their lives way way easier. And that's what it should be there for. But for the majority of ppl those things are superfluous. We don't need them. We really don't. But we are being MADE to want them bc the market gives lucrative profits for a select few if we ALL have to use them to pay for the research and development. I don't need things delivered to my frigging garden by drone, but a small number of ppl do. God forbid someone develops these things out of the goodness of their hearts bc elderly need help. But no, let's squeeze the cash out of everyone on the planet telling them they need some delivery bc it's cool apparently. So we are made to use internet banking bc then they take cash away. We have streamed entertainment rather than going out and making our own bc all the pubs and cinemas are shutting. We are made to use chat bots on phones bc the take ppl away. It makes me effing furious #AI #aiwillkillus #aiwillbeourdownfall #aiwillnotfixit #aiwilleliminateusall