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Post #3475369

2026-06-29 18:31 UTC

Illinois HB5511 just passed both chambers and is headed to Governor Pritzker for signature. My reading is that by January 1st, 2028, any "public or semipublic web site" "used by a covered minor" "shall request... an age bracket signal" for any user that visits the web site. Our ToS bans anyone under 18, but there just... isn't any standard way for a web site to obtain age assurance information. I don't know what will happen if no standard emerges in the next 18 months. https://legiscan.com/IL/bill/HB5511/2025

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  • @storm@swingset.social 2026-06-29 18:38

    @aphyr@woof.group Ask if they are from Illinois and refuse to let them in if they say yes?

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  • @theorangetheme@en.osm.town 2026-06-29 18:34

    @aphyr@woof.group Is it going to wind up being one of those things like "Are you at least 18? [ ] yes [ ] no"?

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  • @aphyr@woof.group Well, _that's_ horrific. I suppose the usual techno-literalistic process of bad faith readings isn't going to be very interesting; do you have a sense from your reps as to what they expect site operators to do with browsers that fail to respond to that inquiry?

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  • @aphyr@woof.group What particularly sucks is that I would _very much like_ web standards bodies (WhatWG et al) to point-blank refuse to come to consensus on an age-signalling apparatus, from a political and philosophical perspective, but I also recognize that that refusal would effectively put every operator (and particularly small ones) in a bind. >:(

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  • @gratdelay@woof.group 2026-06-29 23:49

    @aphyr@woof.group Will the bots swamping the web have to prove they are over 18 years old?

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  • @jeawhiz@woof.group 2026-07-01 17:49

    @aphyr@woof.group Ugh!! Pushing regulation and policy onto the operating system is so messy. One example is the whole DOJ v. Microsoft thing with the "thou shalt not include a browser in an OS". Yeah, I know that's a user space issue. The age verification thing pushing this to the OS is all about the "secure enclave" I think, which means we're regulating hardware, too. This is really bad.

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