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Post #3231531

2026-06-09 13:02 UTC

So people are totally now using AI models for regular stuff that you can do via shell scripts and cron, because why do something for free when you can burn tokens and at the same time actively forget how to use the normal tools at your disposal? 🤦 🙏 🤦

Replies (23)

  • @stux@mstdn.social 2026-06-09 20:43

    @jschauma@mstdn.social Or create endless bots on social media like Mastodon only to be booted a while later after posting nothing but nonsense and increasing server, storage and email costs even more all while paying for it.. What a world!

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  • @jschauma@mstdn.social @stux@mstdn.social RE: https://mastodon.social/@rusty__shackleford/116709919605656393

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  • @ehproque@neopaquita.es 2026-06-09 13:23

    @jschauma@mstdn.social because this way you can use your time in other things, like using AI to get worse results while losing your skills

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  • @alessandro@cosocial.ca 2026-06-09 13:24

    @jschauma@mstdn.social True, but I'd take this as a signal that the shell and cron should be more user-friendly.

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  • @AnachronistJohn@zia.io 2026-06-09 13:58

    @jschauma@mstdn.social Capitalism has trained people that newer is better. I wouldn’t be surprised if people who use these replacements somehow think they’re better.

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  • @jschauma@mstdn.social They don't wanna waste time and they're lazy. Of course they'll never learn anything new that way, but it's still nice to think how helpless they become when they have no internet access.

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  • @jschauma@mstdn.social Reminds me, when I used to use an LLM only to convert json structures to jsdoc... turns out there is an NPM package which does exactly that, only thing missing was a CLI, but that isn't very hard to do (in case anyone is interested: https://git.iedsoftworks.com/neintonine/json2jsdoc )

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  • @gumnos@mastodon.bsd.cafe 2026-06-09 14:28

    @jschauma@mstdn.social Drives me a bit bonkers to see folks with their "I built this lightweight¹ CLI application in Rust using $LLM" when the core functionality can be performed by a shell one-liner. I mean, sure, a tiny piece of me is glad they're getting into software-tool development, but that's such a horrible way to do it. 😑 ⸻ ¹ lightweight = "only has 150 Cargo module dependencies and takes an hour to `cargo build` the thing"

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  • @resuna@ohai.social 2026-06-09 14:53

    @jschauma@mstdn.social In the '80s I had secretaries and janitors at work where I was a sysadmin coming to me for help with the shell scripts they had written of their own initiative to make some of the routine stuff they had to do easier. Only a few lines of code, but they did understand what they were doing.

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  • @Samsai@mastodon.social 2026-06-09 15:07

    @jschauma@mstdn.social If you selfishly maintained your competence and didn't let corporations rent-seek on everything you do, that wouldn't exactly be fair on the corporations now would it?

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  • @jschauma@mstdn.social seeing this in real time, btw.

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  • @rasterweb@mastodon.social 2026-06-09 16:46

    @jschauma@mstdn.social Who are these people!? (Asking because I want to mock them and then avoid them.)

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  • @arun@fantastic.earth 2026-06-09 17:17

    @jschauma@mstdn.social I think there is merit to what you're saying (over reliance on the tool), but also consider that it is a UX failure that it is easier to get an LLM to do the thing than to remember a set of esoteric incantations (assuming you knew them to start with)

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  • @wakame@tech.lgbt 2026-06-09 17:54

    @jschauma@mstdn.social But it's so much easier with AI...

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  • @gratux@furries.club 2026-06-09 17:55

    @jschauma@mstdn.social at work, I recently heard someone seriously suggest to use an AI agent in a CI pipeline to do code formatting, because they couldn't figure out the clang-format config options....

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  • @BenAveling@mastodon.ie 2026-06-09 18:05

    Possibly because management are telling people: you must use AI! So, people are using AI. @jschauma@mstdn.social

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  • @stinerman@mastodon.social 2026-06-09 18:32

    @jschauma@mstdn.social there are people working for companies that base their productivity on how many tokens they're using in a day. This helps them pad that number. People respond to incentives.

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  • @isaackuo@spacey.space 2026-06-09 18:35

    @jschauma@mstdn.social Yeah, I just want a simple reliable incremental backup to work. Just good old rsync and -- "What?" "Hold on, I need to look something up." ... "Damn it."

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  • @tom@subdued.social 2026-06-09 18:41

    @jschauma@mstdn.social As far back as the early 90s my superpower was that I read the manuals for my OSes and learned about all the included utilities and what they could do, while other people were out buying 3rd party utilities that were perhaps fancier looking but still just did approximately the same thing. Getting good results from basic standard tools was kind of my signature throughout my career. I'm retired now, but I'm convinced the value of this superpower would only be amplified today.

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  • @hub@cosocial.ca 2026-06-09 19:05

    @jschauma@mstdn.social maybe they never knew how...

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  • @traecer@techhub.social 2026-06-09 19:07

    @jschauma@mstdn.social don't forget burning the planet down around our ears

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  • @multiplex@hachyderm.io 2026-06-09 19:15

    @jschauma@mstdn.social this

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  • @w_b@mastodon.world 2026-06-09 21:34

    @jschauma@mstdn.social Don't forget, you are following management directive to use AI, regardless of whether it makes sense to do so.

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